I would like to say that I appreciate reading all your comments, Yerusalyim. However, my take on it is I am not under-patriotic, but I have absolutely zero patriotism in my blood. After 47 years of observation, I believe that every word coming out of a politician's mouth is a lie for their own profit. I'm not a cynical person, but when it comes to government I'm 100% cynical.
My point is.............our rights are from God, and the government's job is to preserve those rights. That is the purpose of government, as Jefferson said in the Declaration of Independance, which is why elected officials have to swear to uphold the Constitution and laws. So really, the GOVERNMENT is obligated to be loyal to me. I owe no loyalty to the government. They are my servants. (Yeah, right). Patriotism is a snow job by the government, twisting the masses to be loyal to them so they can get away with shearing us like sheep, (to the tune of a proposed 2.2 trillion dollar budget proposal, etc.). I think if you read Jefferson, Madison, and others from that time, you will find that they feared government and never preached patriotism. In fact, Jefferson said, "The tree of liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." He also said a little revolution here and there would keep the government in line. "God forbid we go 20 years without a revolt," was what he wrote. So he advocated resistance, not loyalty, because the nature of government is to take and take and always will until they are stopped. If the founding fathers were patriotic we would never had a revolution. In fact, many were loyal to the King and that was a problem at the time.
I don't support Hussein nor do I support Bush. I support truth over the lie. Of course, the first casualty of war is truth, so in war time I'm particulary suspicious.
Even though I disagree with you on this one, keep up the fine posts. I hope I wasn't disagreeable, just my humble opinion.
Edited by - reubenfine on 11 February 2003 10:23:42