Largest amount of refugees since WW2 in Europe (page 17)

TheWonderofYou

Please take time to read the full text of Junckers speech before the European Parliament, he speaks about history of refugees in europe in his speech Time for Honesty, Unity and Solidarity
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-15-5614_en.htm

or read the summary about it in The Guardian:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/sep/09/refugee-crisis-junker-unveils-eu-quota-plan-live-updates

Excerpt of Junckers speech:

"That is something to be proud of and not something to fear.Europe today, in spite of many differences amongst its Member States, is by far the wealthiest and most stable continent in the world.

We have the means to help those fleeing from war, terror and oppression.I know that many now will want to say that this is all very well, but Europe cannot take everybody. It is true that Europe cannot house all the misery of the world. But let us be honest and put things into perspective.There is certainly an important and unprecedented number of refugees coming to Europe at the moment. However, they still represent just 0.11% of the total EU population." (approx. 508.191,116 people)

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Further links: BBC

Please watch the video reportage by Jeremy Bowen reporting from an area of Syria that has been devastated by war, and deserted by families on BBC

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34193568

Aljazeera

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/nations-split-eu-release-refugee-quotas-mediterranean-150909041714912.html

TheWonderofYou

Correction: Sorry incorrect video link (Jeremy bowen has many good videos.)

In regard to the question if these refugees are "economic refugees" or "war refugees" please watch the video reportage by Jeremy Bowen reporting from an area of Syria that has been devastated by war, and deserted by families on BBC entitled: "Syria Snapshot of life inside Assad stronghold"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34192568

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http://hungarytoday.hu/news_category/politics

Offers information about refugees in english from the Hungarian viewpoint

e.g. Hungary has secretly taken 1000 christian families in the last years was yesterday revealed in Paris.

kaik

Thewonderofyou, I have not been in Liberec for 35 years! I generally prefer Plzen [Pilsen] or Kozel over other Czech beer. Litovel and Radegast are not bad either.

Today largest Czech media (MF Dnes) reported that EU wants to resettle 4300 refugees there. Unofficial information (Czech R is too small to keep anything secret), said that the number will be 27,000-30,000 while Slovakia should receive half that number. Not sure which source are correct between Hungarian, Czech, and Slovak media, but the number of Hungarian refugees from Syria is about 17% or 34%. Rest are migrants from all over the world, from India and Bangladesh to Somalia, Ethiopia, and Yemen.

Very clearly what problems are with the refugees can be seen in Denmark. Railway and highway connection between Germany and Denmark was closed Denmark. Refugees are stranded between these two countries and between Sweden and Denmark on ships. Denmark is refusing any EU quotas. Since Denmark limited welfare benefits, it became undesirable destination for the refugees.

TheWonderofYou

The shameless silence of the gulf countries, article by poet vinodnayaran

http://vinodnarayan.com/2015/09/04/the-shameless-silence-of-the-gulf-muslim-countries-refugee-crisis/

According to scientist El-Husseini the gulf states are afraid of too much arabic influence, turmoils and protests. The states had not taken refugees but exported jehadists and assisted enemies of Assad with money and weapons. The already millions of integrated asian workes are accepting the low wages. Syrians would speak the same langueage and would demand higher salaries. The syrians could stir up the own population, said the expert

The Hashtag #Welcoming_Syria's_refugees_is_a_Gulf_duty was shared over 30000 times.

LoveUniHateExams

Just thought I'd keep this thread going with an article I've read in the Guardian.

Apparently, Munich has become swamped with mi ... sorry, refugees (or is it 'newcomers' now?).

Anyhoo, it seems Bavarian authorities are finally starting to wise up to this crisis and are representing the will of its citizens by temporarily closing the border with Austria and by planning to move refugees to other parts of Germany.

Asylum seekers must understand “they cannot chose the states where they are seeking protection,” [de Maizière] told reporters - well done. You're learning, slowly but surely.

“It’s not feasible for us to take in the equivalent of a small town’s population every day. It’s simply not doable logistically any more,” Hillenbrand said - ditto.

Why has the EU response been so incompetent? It's almost as if they want to destroy the cultures of host countries.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/13/germany-to-close-borders-exit-schengen-emergency-measures

LoveUniHateExams

An interesting article in the Mail.

A DM reporter was able to buy a fake Syrian passport and driving licence in Turkey, the fraudsters giving him the identity of a Syrian man apparently killed in Aleppo last year. I say 'fake' but the passport was genuinely made because Islamist fighters stole them as blanks from government offices.

When David Cameron visited Lebanon recently, the Lebanese president thought that around 2% of the population of refugees are Islamist fighters. UN officials slammed this view, obviously due to lack of hard evidence, but failed to state what % of refugees they thought to be terrorists.

Evidence for this passport scam certainly adds to this debate - it's highly unlikely that 0% of refugees are terrorists, i.e. there must be some terrorists invading Europe. I wonder why the UN is so keen to play down the terrorist threat?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3235320/PASSPORT-TERROR-MailOnline-reporter-buys-Syrian-papers-sold-ISIS-fighters-sneaking-Europe-hidden-refugees.html

TheWonderofYou

A speaker of foreign minister of Saudi Arabia officially protested against the negative media reports, they integrated 100.000 syrians as citizens but not as refugees with right for education health care and employment .

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/12/saudi-arabia-says-reports-of-its-syrian-refugee-response-false-and-misleading

Why dont these syrians tell more.

LoveUniHateExams

Another interesting article, from Douglas Murray.

In it, he speaks of potential issues further down the road that liberal politicians and 'activists' seem to shy away from, the most important being the issue of integration.

I found this bit particularly interesting: Explaining the failure of Gulf countries to take in Syrian refugees, one Kuwaiti official said: “In the end it is not right for us to accept a people that are different from us. We don’t want people that suffer from internal stress and trauma in our country.” Was the Kuwaiti official being islamophobic or merely racist?

Here's the article: http://www.standpointmag.co.uk/node/6239/full

LoveUniHateExams

Another article, this time about a German woman who's received notice from the local authorities that she'll be evicted from her flat by the end of the year - to make way for refugees/migrants.

Yes, you read that right. Apparently this is the second time this has happened already.

Mario Schlafke, the town's mayor, says the authorities had no choice. 'The council hasn't taken a frivolous decision ... the alternative would have been to set up beds in the gym.' - they haven't thought this through, have they

Deary me ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3256156/German-woman-second-evicted-home-make-room-migrants-country-begins-printing-constitution-Arabic-refugees-learn.html

Simon

I'd be wary of getting too many facts from the Daily Mail. They are the Fox News of UK newspapers.

I do agree though that the almost blind acceptance of refugees could be a big problem. Will they be bringing the kind of crap that turned their own country into a mess? Some will. The door shouldn't just be thrown open to all with no conditions.

But short term there are families in genuine crisis due to a mess that OUR governments helped to create. So we have to help because of it and well, because they need help.

Largest amount of refugees since WW2 in Europe

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