France is a "Pain in the Ass"

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  • JH
    JH

    I changed my topic to this:

    Why does France always go against Britain and US policies? Should we still consider France as an ally? They love to go their way and ignore US and Britain's way of thinking.

    France Vows to Block Resolution on Iraq War
    U.S. Schedule Put at Risk By U.N. Debate

    By Glenn Kessler and Colum Lynch
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Tuesday, January 21, 2003; Page A01

    UNITED NATIONS, Jan. 20 -- France suggested today it would wage a major diplomatic fight, including possible use of its veto power, to prevent the U.N. Security Council from passing a resolution authorizing military action against Iraq.

    France's opposition to a war, emphatically delivered here by Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin, is a major blow for the Bush administration, which has begun pouring tens of thousands of troops into the Persian Gulf in preparation for a military conflict this spring. The administration had hoped to mark the final phase in its confrontation with Iraq when U.N. weapons inspectors deliver a progress report Monday.

    But in a diplomatic version of an ambush, France and other countries used a high-level Security Council meeting on terrorism to lay down their markers for the debate that will commence next week on the inspectors' report. Russia and China, which have veto power, and Germany, which will chair the Security Council in February, also signaled today they were willing to let the inspections continue for months.

    Only Britain appeared to openly support the U.S. position that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has thwarted effective inspections.

    "If war is the only way to resolve this problem, we are going down a dead end," de Villepin told reporters. "Already we know for a fact that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs are being largely blocked, even frozen. We must do everything possible to strengthen this process."

    The United Nations, he said, should stay "on the path of cooperation. The other choice is to move forward out of impatience over a situation in Iraq to move towards military intervention. We believe that today nothing justifies envisaging military action."

    Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, in the face of such comments, departed from his prepared text on terrorism and implored his colleagues to remember that the Security Council resolution passed unanimously Nov. 8 gave Iraq "a last chance" to meet its obligations. "We must not shrink from our duties and our responsibilities when the material comes before us next week," Powell said. He used a variation of the phrase "must not shrink" three more times as he addressed the council.

    During the weeks of debate on the Iraq resolution, French officials had indicated they were open to some sort of military intervention if Iraq did not comply. But now the French appear to have set much higher hurdles for support.

    Rising opposition to war, particularly in France, appears to have played a role in the hardening positions on the Security Council. Foreign officials are also aware of polls in the United States suggesting that support for a war drops dramatically if the Bush administration does not have U.N. approval.

    While the United Nations was debating today, U.S. military officials announced that the Army is sending a force of about 37,000 soldiers, spearheaded by the Texas-based 4th Infantry Division, to the Persian Gulf region. It is the largest ground force identified among an estimated 125,000 U.S. troops ordered to deploy since Christmas Eve, the Associated Press reported.

    At the United Nations, several foreign ministers said a war in Iraq would spawn more terrorist acts around the globe and, in the words of Germany's Joschka Fischer, have "disastrous consequences for long-term regional stability."

    "Terrorism is far from being crushed," said Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov. "We must be careful not to take unilateral steps that might threaten the unity of the entire [anti-]terrorism coalition. In this context we are strictly in favor of a political settlement of the situation revolving around Iraq."

    Powell replied: "We cannot fail to take the action that may be necessary because we are afraid of what others might do. We cannot be shocked into impotence because we are afraid of the difficult choices that are ahead of us."

    But when the foreign ministers emerged from the council debate and addressed reporters, it appeared that Powell's pleas had made little impact. Although President Bush said last week he was "sick and tired of games and deception," Fischer said the inspections were a success.

    "Iraq has complied fully with all relevant resolutions and cooperated very closely with the U.N. team on the ground," Fischer said. "We think things are moving in the right direction, based on the efforts of the inspection team, and [they] should have all the time which is needed."

    Chinese Foreign Minister Tang Jiaxuan said Monday's report should be regarded as a "new beginning" rather than an end to inspections. The chief weapons inspectors "have been talking about that there is more work to do in terms of the inspections and they need more time. I think we should respect their opinion and support their work."

    De Villepin, in a lengthy and at times theatrical news conference, was asked whether France would use its veto power to thwart Washington's campaign for quick action. He said France "will shoulder its responsibilities, faithful to the principles it has."

    France would never "associate ourselves with military intervention that is not supported by the international community," de Villepin added. "We think that military intervention would be the worst possible solution."

    France, as chair of the Security Council this month, had organized today's meeting on terrorism in part to draw attention to its contention that the Iraq situation has detracted from the more pressing need to confront international terrorism.

    De Villepin reacted coolly to suggestions, made by senior Bush administration officials Sunday, that Hussein and his top advisers be offered political asylum outside Iraq to avert a war. "The problem is something more difficult than a question of change of regime," he said. "Let us not be diverted from our objective. It is the disarmament of Iraq."

    U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan also indirectly criticized the prospect of war when he addressed the council on terrorism. "Any sacrifice of freedom or the rule of law within states -- or any generation of new disputes between states in the name of anti-terrorism -- is to hand the terrorists a victory that no act of theirs could possibly bring," he said, alluding to frequent U.S. assertions that the confrontation with Iraq is part of the larger war on terrorism.

    The only sign of support for the U.S. position came from its closest ally, Britain. Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said "time was running out" for Hussein and his "cat and mouse" game. But Straw added that Britain preferred a U.N. resolution authorizing force.

    "Iraq has a responsibility now to avoid a conflict, to avoid a war," Powell told reporters. "There is no question that Iraq continues to misunderstand the seriousness of the position that it's in.

    "If the United Nations is going to be relevant," he added, "it has to take a firm stand."

    2003 The Washington Post Company

    Edited by - jh on 21 January 2003 18:22:19

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Well if you can change the subject, so can I.

    Robyn

    Edited by - robdar on 21 January 2003 23:36:55

  • JH
    JH

    Either France is too chicken to join the US and Britain, or they will wait until a terrorist blows up something in France. Then they might wake up!

  • Southland
    Southland

    France has plenty of direct experience with terrorism. I am grateful that at least some countries around the world see through Bush's pure BS - everyone knows he's eager to go to war to divert attention from his dismal performance on the home front (i.e. economy, joblessness, etc.). Furthermore, the inspection team needs to be allowed adequate time to do their job, and we need to at least allow Saddam the opportunity to go into exile as the Arabs are trying to pursuade him.

    War is not something that should not be rushed into by any means.

    Edited by - southland on 22 January 2003 13:49:44

  • Bendrr
    Bendrr

    France can go to hell. The war's gonna happen. Everybody knows that. We're going to win. Everybody knows that too. How violent and bloody the war will be depends on the wild card in the game, Saddam. He may end up using a nuke or nerve gas or a biological agent. If that happens, it's fairly certain that the U.S. will respond with nukes. I don't want to see that happen any more than anyone else does. Maybe France and the others objecting are thinking the same thing and that's why they are fighting against this war so desparately.

    Mike.

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    France won't make any difference at all. They will protest at the idea of war, then, when it happens, will offer to be medics or similar and claim to have been right behind us all the time!

    Mange toute!

    Englishman.

  • gsx1138
    gsx1138

    Last I checked France was their own country. Just because they don't bow down and kiss our ass like Tony Blair doesn't mean they are wrong. I get so tired of this everyone has to agree with us and be like us mentality. They can just see through Bush's bullshit, it's not that big of a deal. Like it's already been said, we're going to war regardless.

  • unclebruce
    unclebruce

    please look t'other way celia!

    ==

    Ah France perfect one day, shitenhousen the next. The frogs, in spite of the nice breadrolls and statute of liberty, are a selfish, arrogant lot of backstabbing swine .. i wave my gentiles in thier direction!

    unclebruce

    ps: I've heard that this war has been decided. I've heard that now that the Kurds have left thier communist ideals in the ashes of the soviet union, they will now be granted a christian/pro-western homeland. .. .Then again, i've also heard that the big plan includes handing much of southern Iraq over to the Saudiis (scratches head)

  • xjw_b12
    xjw_b12

    Try living in a country, where you have a mini France in the middle. [ Quebec ]. Not that Canada is any better. Seems we always take the high ground.

    Very controversial...that war against Iraq. It is like the storm clouds are gathering...the wind has picked up,.....but no one wants to acknowledge it is actually going to happen.

    P.S. Have you seen the movie "Deterence " OUCH Scary, but maybe not so far from the truth !

    Edited by - xjw_b12 on 21 January 2003 20:5:46

  • Englishman
    Englishman
    Just because they don't bow down and kiss our ass like Tony Blair doesn't mean they are wrong

    Don't you know when you are being controlled?

    Englishman.

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