The Watchtower has a deal with the Navy.

by avengers 159 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    Looks like amac could use a happy pill...or two

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    LOL!!!Ok,so it`s not fun for everybody but I have a good time.And we still have the "WBTS Bomb Parts Factory" at the top of the forum.We`re getting to be a team I tell you! It`s getting pretty evident your doomed to playing the part of the straight man unaware of whats going on around him.I`ll stop by every once in a while to give you a 6 inch hat pin in the shorts ..LOL...OUTLAW

    Edited by - OUTLAW on 19 July 2002 19:22:20

    Edited by - OUTLAW on 19 July 2002 20:6:57

  • jwsons
    jwsons

    Someone really put up with bitter beating for "no profits" Please tell your borg. give up, return or cast away all those shares. Dare to get rid all of those bloodshedding shares while Brooklyn is shrinking ?
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    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=24645&site=3
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    I like to give raw material here (below) again So everyone can understand by themselves, not by your Jdubs (JW) cunning-explanations:

    http://www.tenkwizard.com/blurbs.php?repo=tenk&ipage=1098910&exp=watchtower&g=

    http://www.regtech.com/main.htm

    http://www.regtech.com/press/press1995.htm

    http://www.tenkwizard.com/blurbs.php?repo=tenk&ipage=50970&exp=Watchtower&g=

    Edited by - jwsons on 19 July 2002 20:14:6

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    Well here's an idea. Since the WT has no business collecting benefits from any shares

    Donated to them by Mr. McCann then they can set aside a separate account for all proceeds collected from those shares to be deposited in trust to all proven victims of child abuse.

    A kinda education fund. College fund per sa'

    An exectutor outside the society could be appointed to see that all funds are managed approiately.

    Then they could even use the ora around that to demonstrate how God works in mysterious ways.

  • deddaisy
    deddaisy
    I'm sorry if I'm a little more anal about things called Facts and I am not so bitter against the WT that when I see them doing wrong I don't jump on the old "Anti" bandwagon and exaggerate the details to make them look worse.------amac

    you know amac, you're right, every person here is screwed up, except you. Like Erieguy said, we are all LIARS and DECEPTIVE. Everyone is lying, everyone is so bitter against the WT, everybody, without any cause, has decided that they will spend their time riding the old "Anti" bandwagon.

    The problem is amac, I have no reason to be "so bitter....." I have family members that are Witnesses but I am not, nor have I ever been. I am not shunned by my family, I have never been molested, I am over 21 and free to live any way I choose. And do you really believe that the posters with reason to be bitter would waste their time with intentional lying and exaggerating regarding the WTS. I really don't understand your reasoning, or lack of reasoning. Is it possible, in your mind, for one to want to expose deceit for any reason other than "being bitter?"

    The facts speak for themselves, there's no need to embellish on them. If exaggeration doesn't bother you and it is more important to "bring the 'Tower down!!!!", then go right ahead. I'll note it for future reference in case I'm tempted to reply to you again.---amac

    You're right, the facts do speak for themselves. Exaggeration does bother me, but you know amac, by looking at the disclosure, I don't see how you can claim that this was an exaggeration intended to "bring the tower down!!!!" If anything would ever "bring the tower down," it would be their actions, not some exaggeration on an Internet forum. Since the statement concerning the WTS owning 50% was such an exaggeration, and like you said, you are "more anal about things called facts," could you clarify just how much stock the WTS actually does own? How about in Reg Tech?

    Regi US Inc - DEF 14A - For 11/29/99, On 11/3/99

    Table in Document 1 of 1 - DEF 14A - Definitive Proxy Statement

    -6-

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Shares Owned

    Percentage of

    Name

    Shares Owned

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    John G. Robertson [1] [2] Chairman of the Board, President and

    5,676,050

    60.72%

    Chief Executive Officer

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    The Watchtower Society [1] [3]

    5,367,900

    57.42%

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    James McCann [1] [4]

    5,367,900

    57.42%

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Rand Energy Group Inc. [1] [5]

    5,367,900

    57.42%

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Brian Cherry [1] [6], Vice-President, Secretary and Director

    300,500

    3.21%

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Jennifer Lorette [1] [7], Vice-President and Chief Financial

    Officer

    60,500

    0.65%

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Patrick Badgley [1]

    Nil

    --

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ALL OFFICERS & DIRECTORS AS A GROUP [8] (Four Individuals)

    6,037,050

    64.58%

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Except as noted below, all shares are held beneficially and of record and each

    record shareholder has sole voting and investment power.

    ________________________________________________________________________________

    Source: www.SECinfo.com - SEC Info - Fran Finnegan & Company Inc. - 0001032210-99-001507

    Edited by - deddaisy on 20 July 2002 2:19:4

    Edited by - deddaisy on 20 July 2002 2:38:49

    Edited by - deddaisy on 21 July 2002 2:52:45

  • deddaisy
    deddaisy
    You asked me to show you what facts you were blowing out of proportion and you will address it...I point it out...and you fall back on the old "well it doesn't matter anyway."-----amac

    actually, my exact quote was, (Emphasis NOT added):

    If there is a relevant part of the SEC Filing that I am blowing out of context, then confront me with it and let me address it.....deddaisy

    I didn't realize that I "fell back on the old 'well it doesn't matter anyway.' " I thought that I replied that I believed the exact percentage owned to be irrelevant to the fact that it was owned in the first place. I apologize for any misunderstanding.

    Since the statement concerning the WTS owning 50% was such an exaggeration, and like you said, you are "more anal about things called facts," could you clarify just how much stock the WTS actually does own? How about in Reg Tech?----deddaisy
    I'm still waiting amac.

    Edited by - deddaisy on 20 July 2002 13:51:3

  • bigboi
    bigboi

    About 7 yrs ago here in New Orleans there was a big controversy about whether or not bros. employed at various shipyards in and around the city could keep their jobs. You see, many of these shipyards had just recieved contracts to build boats and barges that would one day house casinos and the biggest shipyard in town, Avondale, had just recieved a naval contract to build various vessels for the military. Many of the brothers that would be affected were well established and had worked in the industry for yrs. It was literally what they'd done for most of heir lives. The CO became involved, he wrote the Society for thier 'opinion' on the matter. The decision that came down was that anyone working in these industries had 6 mos to find a new occupation or they would be considered disassociated by their respective congregations. Six months, to totally re-establish yourself and find a whole new way to feed your family, put gas in the car etc.. or risk losing everything from a social and religious standpoint. SIX MONTHS!!!!, After a lifetime of hard work and devotion all they could give u was a six month deadline.

    Yet, THEY and their sycophants want you to believe that somehow it's okay for them to profit from the same organizations that they won't allow u to work for to feed your family.

    ONE.....

    bigboi

  • sf
    sf

    Then I open the news today and read that the smartbombs story reported the other day was A LEAK, and that Rumsfield has ordered an 'investigation' in said leak. hahahaha

    Oh boy.......

    sKally

  • deddaisy
    deddaisy

    ...had just recieved a naval contract to build various vessels for the military. Many of the brothers that would be affected were well established and had worked in the industry for yrs. It was literally what they'd done for most of heir lives. The CO became involved, he wrote the Society for thier 'opinion' on the matter. The decision that came down was that anyone working in these industries had 6 mos to find a new occupation or they would be considereddisassociated by their respective congregations

    bigboi,

    I don't understand why there was a problem. I mean the brothers:

    made NO PROFIT FROM THE CONTRACT------------, DIDN'T OWN 50% OF THE COMPANY------------------- the jobs had BEEN GIVEN TO THEM, -------------- they COULDN'T GET RID OF THE JOBS (UNLESS THEY GAVE THEM BACK)---------------they had NO VOTING PROXY ---- "NO SAY SO" IN WHAT THE COMPANY DID--------------WERE NOT AWARE OF MILITARY CONNECTIONS WHEN THEY ACCEPTED THE JOB--------------

    so the WTS gave them 6 MONTHS? doesn't seem that the ole WTS thought any of these excuses was a good enough excuse for these brothers to keep their ONLY INCOME. But I'm sure the WTS hasn't known about Regi's DEFENSE CONTRACTS for 6 months yet.....

    Edited by - deddaisy on 21 July 2002 2:44:45

  • seawolf
    seawolf

    After reading this thread I can't get that stupid Village People song "In the Navy" out of my head.

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