Was justice served fairly in the Micheal Brown tragedy, whats your opinion ?

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  • James Brown
    James Brown

    This was posted in the Ferguson Scanner, and later deleted. I copied it before it disappeared, and emailed it to myself. I am posting it here because I found this man's message to be in keeping with my own thoughts about the events going on in Ferguson. It's lengthy, but worth reading. See if you agree, and let me know your thoughts (I blanked out references to the 'n' word, for FB rules):

    My Nam ... e is William G. Lillas....
    I wanted to clear up a few black and white questions and answers. The things I state are facts. They are not downloaded from some media website, not propaganda, just observations from a 83 year old black man, born in America:
    "I was told by my parents (yes, a married man and woman with my last name), that I was n*****. We lived in “N***** Town” in a small Texas town, no A/C, grass growing through the floor, no car, no TV. We washed our bodies with lye soap that my mother made, by hand. I thought I was a n*****, until I graduated high school, went to college, did an enlistment in the Army, and got a job. I am now retired, own my own home, have 6 children by ONE WOMAN, and we all have the same last name. I have a Bachelor’s Degree in Liberal Arts, a Master’s Degree in Sociology. My retirement, VA disability from combat in the Korean War (I only have one leg), and part-time pay in a local college, is about $125,000 a year. From dirt poor n*****, to old, black, proud American.
    Yes, I am black, and I can say “n*****”, because I understand the true meaning of the word.
    Let’s clear up a few things about the Michael Brown incident.
    -Fact: It is not called "shoplifting or stealing", it's called "robbery", which is a felony. Brown stole something and assaulted someone, that means ROBBERY. It’s on video, and it’s a fact. Not shoplifting, not theft, not “lifting” a few cigars, but ROBBERY!
    -Michael Brown, like Trayvon, was portrayed by the media as a “little black boy”, cute little headphones, and his cap and gown photo, gunned down by a ruthless police assassin, executed by “whitey”. First, I have never seen a cop drag a person into their car’s driver door to arrest them. So, let us be clear, Michael Brown was a n*****; a sorry assed, criminal, hoodlum, n*****. Nobody wants to say that, but I will. He had a criminal record a mile long, was known for numerous assaults, robberies, including the one you saw with your own eyes, and still refuse to call it a robbery. He was, like so many others, living a life that he thought he was “entitled” to, just for being alive. Gangsta rap, weed, drinking, guns, and those stupid-assed low profile rims, makes him some kind of bad-ass n*****.
    -I have fought communist Chinese and North Korean soldiers in the 1950’s with more honor than that n*****. Yep, I peeled potatoes and shot communists. That’s the only job a n***** soldier could get.
    Rodney King? Black Riots!
    Trayvon? Black Riots!
    -Hurricane Katrina? Black Riots! Stealing TV’s, designer clothes, etc.
    -O.J. Simpson kills white man and white woman, found NOT GUILTY? Did white folks riot? Nope!
    -In fact, when is the last time white people rioted? Civil War, maybe? That’s because they are, relatively, civilized people, much like many black Americans. Protesting is one thing, hell, I’m all for it. Even if you are an ignorant idiot, you have a right to protest.
    -Stop only showing the young black "cap and gown" photos of Michael. Charles Manson may have a few of those laying around, as well. Show the n***** "gangsta" photos of the "poor unarmed teenager" (grown man) pics that have been removed from his Facebook page, holding the loaded pistol, smoking weed, with a mouthful of money.
    -Militarization? The stupid-assed media that publicizes this has no idea what “militarization” really is. Cops wear helmets and vests, and drive armored vehicle because unemployed n*****s thrown bricks at them, moron! You put on an "Adam 12" uniform and walk down the streets of Ferguson during the criminal riots. I can guarantee that you'll jump into the first armored "military tank" that you see.
    -You only "want the police" when you "need the police", otherwise, you mock and fear what you do not understand about the police. And by the way, the police are trained to take your shit, but I wouldn’t fuck around with those Army National Guard, they aren’t as well disciplined “culturally” to take your shit like police do every day. They will ventilate your black asses with M-16s, with military precision and extreme prejudice.
    -And finally, the way we protest and demand justice, is run down the streets breaking shit, looting stores, and acting like a bunch of untrained monkeys? Hell, after Rodney King, criminal n*****s were actually killing people, thinking they were entitled to be worse criminals than they already were. For those black criminals that do that, you are a disgrace to your race, inflamed by idiots like Al Sharpton, instead of listening to logic from proud black Americans, like Bill Cosby, Samuel Jackson, Colin Powell, Allen West, me, etc.
    -You blame white people for your ignorance, criminal acts, unemployed laziness, etc.
    -You blame white people for 89% of the prisons in America being full of blacks. They did nothing wrong, the racists white cops framed them all, right? No chance at school, no chance for college, military, employment?
    BULL SHIT!
    -More n*****s kill n*****s, than n*****s killing whites, whites killing n*****s, and whites killing whites….COMBINED. I find this astounding.
    -It's not white peoples' faults, the Emancipation Proclamation was signed by a white man years ago. You can go to school, get a job, buy a house, and vote, JUST LIKE WHITE FOLKS!!!! You are not a slave, you are not discriminated against! Slavery is abolished, and nobody alive today, was alive when it was popular. Get over it! You are discriminated against because you are a criminal, sorry-assed n*****. Otherwise, black Americans are treated like everyone else.
    -If you choose to create "baby daddy and baby mama", and fake disabilities as an excuse for laziness to draw social security disability…… instead of husband, wife, family, job, mortgage, it's YOUR FAULT, not white folks. And there are a lot of proud black Americans that will tell you the same, as I AM ONE OF THEM!!!
    -Remember, the way you act on the camera, is remembered by everyone who sees it. They will never forget it. It shows them how you, as the black race, respond to situations that don’t particularly go the way you think they should. It will become a reference standard, something they expect from you when the next media report doesn’t go your way. Stop being stupid n*****s, and be a proud black American. My parents raised me well, but they were wrong about one thing, I am not a n*****.
    I will not be around long. While my mind is still sharp, and my aim is still good, my body is eating away with cancer. It started in the prostate, and is spreading rapidly. After I die, I have asked my children to publish my writings, and include my name. Although I am not expecting any miracles, I can only hope that Americans will stop blaming color, start blaming criminals, and see people for what the y really are. We have too many countries that want us dead. We should not be fighting each other.
    "William G. Lillas" See More

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Many people will never believe that a fair and just decision was made because of all the issues with the system, as well as with this case.

    A prosecutor that could not be unbiased/impartial and should have recused himself.

    A municipality where the police dept has a history of "targeting" minorities.

    Civil rights violations against members of the media on the scene to report the activities.

    Civil rights violations and police brutality against law-abiding citizens legally protesting.

    A complete refusal to get involved by any black civic leader having better "credentials" than Al Sharpton.

    A governor who failed to respond in a timely manner with something less than SWAT Team tactics.

    Doc

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24
    MISSOURI LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR: ARREST MICHAEL BROWN’S STEPFATHER FOR ‘BURN THIS B**CH DOWN’ COMMENTS
    'He should be charged with inciting to riot'

    by STEVE WATSON | INFOWARS.COM | NOVEMBER 28, 2014


    Missouri Lieutenant Governor Peter Kinder has called for the arrest of the stepfather of Ferguson’s Michael Brown, following the emergence of video footage in which he was seen inciting rioters.

    Louis Head, was filmed telling angry mobs in Ferguson Monday to “burn this bi**h down,” after the grand jury announced no indictment for the police officer who shot and killed Brown.

    What followed was an intense night of rioting and looting, during which several buildings and vehicles were burned by agitators.

    Appearing on Laura Ingraham’s radio show, Kinder was asked “When you hear that soundbite from the stepfather of Michael Brown, what’s your reaction?”

    “That he should be arrested and charged with inciting to riot,” the state Republican lawmaker immediately answered.

    Describing the looting of stores that occurred in Ferguson, Ingraham noted “Nothing quite says civil rights outrage like a fifth of Jack Daniels,”

    “Or a new plasma [TV],” Kinder added.

    “That really speaks to the great legacy of Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King.” Ingraham declared.

    Elsewhere during the interview, Kinder cited the evidence presented to the grand jury and defended the decision that Officer Wilson had acted in self defense.

    He also said he believed that there would not be major changes to Missouri’s use of deadly force guidelines, following the Brown case.

    Kinder expressed further dissatisfaction with the response of Governor Jay Nixon (D) for delaying the deployment of National Guard troops to Ferguson.

    On Monday, Kinder suggested that the failure of police and the guard to protect businesses targeted by rioters could have stemmed from an Obama administration stand down order.

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Black people are not a monolithic group of people,

    ----

    Neither are white people. So let's stop using phrases like 'white privilege'....it's a fallacy - an ideal trotted out, coined and spun and taught - aka 'white guilt'. A way to divide and never unite.

  • nancy drew
    nancy drew

    This situation was nothing like the four men who sat at the woolworths lunch couner because of an injustice this was a belligerent criminal being aggressive and he shouldn't be made into a hero.

  • lisaBObeesa
    lisaBObeesa

    Neither are white people. So let's stop using phrases like 'white privilege'....it's a fallacy - an ideal trotted out, coined and spun and taught - aka 'white guilt'. A way to divide and never unite.

    Actually, white privilege is a real thing, you just don't understand what it is.

    It has nothing at all to do with guilt. It also does NOT mean white people do not work hard for what they have or that they are given things or that white people are racist. 'white privilege' is none of those things.

    I am white. I understand that I have some privileges in this society that African Americans do not share.

    For one small example, if I work hard and get a very good job, no one will wonder if I do not really qualify for the job and was given the job because of the color of my skin. That is not something I have to worry about. That is a privilege I enjoy in this country because my skin is white. African Americans do not have this privilege. Hell, Barak Obama doesn't even have that privilege. But I do have that privilege because my skin is white.

    It's not my fault. I don't feel guilty about it.

    But I acknowlege it. It is a real thing that I have, and some others do not.

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Lumping all white people into one group and labelling them as privileged because of their color is every bit as racist and prejudicial and presumptuous as saying all black people are thugs; or all asian people are smart. In fact there are tiers within all parts of society called class and there are major similarities across the board for the separate classes. You can choose to believe that you are privileged because of your color - that's your right and your choice to do so.

  • Pacopoolio
    Pacopoolio
    Neither are white people. So let's stop using phrases like 'white privilege'....it's a fallacy - an ideal trotted out, coined and spun and taught - aka 'white guilt'. A way to divide and never unite.

    Yeah, uh, as pointed above, you don't really understand the concepts you're referring to.

    EVERYONE has privilege in some manner relative to other people. "White" privilege just refers to the fact that, as a member of the visual umbrella that covers "white," a person has certain default advantages due to being born in a society in which "white" aligns with the majority, norm, and power structure.

    That, and other similar terms exist because large numbers of people that are part of a privileged group are completely blind to the perspective of those as not part of the group due to the natural human tendency to extrapolate their own experiences onto everyone else as a default, and not consider how different experiences can affect other people in different ways. If such a large number of people weren't completely ignorant of the idea, or attempt to fight so hard against the fact that it's a definite thing that exists, the term would not even exist. If the majority is blind, then nothing can be done to fix the problem, so education has to be done.

    As pointed out before, another example is "straight" privilege, where for instance, a straight person doesn't have to worry about what every other single person around them thinks or if they'll be harassed for simple actions like holding the person you love's hand in person. Or male privilege, where most men don't have to question whether every single man that they interact with does not have ulterior motives to have sex with them. Etc.

  • lisaBObeesa
    lisaBObeesa

    Lumping all white people into one group and labelling them as privileged because of their color is every bit as racist and prejudicial and presumptuous as saying all black people are thugs; or all asian people are smart. In fact there are tiers within all parts of society called class and there are major similarities across the board for the separate classes. You can choose to believe that you are privileged because of your color - that's your right and your choice to do so.

    It's called "intersectionality."

    There are other kinds of privilege.

    I have white privilge, but I don't have male privilege or upper class privilege. But I do still have white privilege. That does not mean anything other than that. In matters where race is a factor, I have privilege. Unfair, not my fault, but true.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gina-crosleycorcoran/explaining-white-privilege-to-a-broke-white-person_b_5269255.html

  • lisaBObeesa
    lisaBObeesa

    It was made into a race issue by the same agitators that always show up and start making the claims instead of allowing the justice process to work.

    Since you are not American, you probably don't realize how you are channeling Bull Connor here.

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