Was justice served fairly in the Micheal Brown tragedy, whats your opinion ?

by Finkelstein 164 Replies latest social current

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    The Michael Brown tragedy has garnered a lot of attention in the media recently highlighted by the recent County Court decision to not indict the lone officer who did the shooting which caused the death of Micheal Brown.

    Now after more information of the event has been released openly to the public, we can evaluate upon are self in are own opinion toward was the law handed out in this particular event proportionately fair or to a professional standard ?

    I tend to think not and my reasons to think so is as follows ....

    Firstly and probably most importantly was toward the fact the MB was unarmed at the time during his thievery at the convenience store, as well during the abrupt altercation with officer Wilson at his police vehicle.

    In most modern policing activity, there is an established protocol to wait for assistance upon coming into a situation when you come upon an individual or a group of individuals that is being extremely aggressive and resistant to letting the police conduct their given duty as law officers, in that you are told to wait for assistance.

    The reason for this is to make sure the arrest of these suspected law breakers can be successful in their apprehension and containment as to heed their posible escape and further to make sure the conducting officers are not harmed in the entailing process.

    This unfortunately didn't happen with the MB incident and the resulting outcome was a tragedy for both MB the intoxicated unlawful perpetrator and officer Daren Wilson who is going to have to live with for the rest of his life, ever more so now that his face has been openly exposed in the media all throughout North America and elsewhere around the world.

    Should he have waited for back up to arrive at the scene being that he had a extremely aggressive out of control individual who obviously had no particular respect for the law ?

    I'm sure most law offerers would say he should kept eye contact and perhaps tailed the person with the vehicle he had, when assistance arrived then follow through on arrest and apprehension.

    The reason why Tasers were issued to police officers was for them to use them on individuals who were being non compliant on being contained or arrested.

    During Daren Wilson's testimony in court he was asked why he didn't Taser MB and his reply under oath was that he thought they were too big and bulky to carry on his utility belt. The detachment did have Tasers at their disposal but some of the officers such as Wilson didn't carry them .

    If Wilson had waited for back up assistance, it would be most likely that the use of a Taser would have been suggested among the attending officers .

    It would be a good assumption after all the gathered information in this particular case, that officers in this select force were reminded to wait for back up assistance to arrive when its deemed that you have a highly uncontrolled citizen resisting arrest.

    After the very aggressive altercation at the police vehicle, it should have been clearly realized by officer Wilson that this guy wasn't going to cooperate peacefully and was uncontrollably violent as well.

    There is no question that MB should have been brought before a court and been judged in due process of the law and accordingly penalized for his behavior that day.

    I do question to whether the law of the land was duly executed in a fair and proportionate manner toward him though.

    The other regrettable aspect to this case is that since there was a No Indict judgment handed down upon officer Wilson, race relations in Missouri have taken a turn for the worst and the rippling effect is being felt all throughout the United States.

  • Simon
    Simon

    I made it quite clear that we were not going to have this repeated re-interpretation of evidence once the facts of the case have come out.

    MB being unarmed is irrelevent. He attacked the police officer and continued to come at him even after being shot and being given chance on more than one occassion to stop. The forensic evidence and eye-witness testimony that isn't contradicted by it is very clear what happened.

    Officer Wilson behaved professionally and did everything he could to prevent loss of life while carrying out his duty. "what if" and "why not" supposition doesn't alter the fact that he acted lawfully and did nothing wrong. He was not given a chance by MB to do anything other than engage with him. It's called being attacked. The incident was totally and completely of browns making.

    How people chose to react to the law being applied and justice upheld is their problem and should never affect the outcome of any case or factor into the consideration of any verdict. The people using this incident as an excuse for committing violence and destruction should be arrested and prosecuted.

  • prologos
    prologos

    Finkelstein, If you are attacked inside your cruiser, it is hardly time to call for help (In our spread-out town , a 10 minute wait).

    The fact that Wilson did not kill with the first shots shows he was not aiming to kill, he aimed to stop.

    re: tazers, Vancouver airport; a cop, (race withheld to avoid comments) backed up by two fellow officers* tazered a felled man another 4 additional times to death. This injustice is still dragging through the courts after years. Taxpayers are paying millions here, and of course will in Ferguson MO too, but not to lawyers.

    * why are they called "officers" when they are really the lowest rank on the beat?, but use the title anyway to generate good will.

    It is not farfetched to think that Brown would have not stopped until he was satisfied to see Wilson life-less.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    The people using this incident as an excuse for committing violence and destruction should be arrested and prosecuted.

    Absolutely agree with that Simon

    My point being did Wilson conduct himself appropriately given all of the entailing circumstances ?

    I had coffee recently with a friend who is a cop here in Vancouver, the topic of course came up concerning the MB case and he said that what he would have done is called in for back up and waited until they arrived and from then tried to make an apprehension.

    Obviously the altercation at the police vehicle had to have been emotively adrenaline inducing for Wilson.

    Did emotions get the better of Wilson so much he hesitated to wait for back up to arrive and to fire off 12 shots at the unarmed Brown ?

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    "Justice" is a process, not a result. The process led at least 9 of 12 people to conclude that Wilson should not be charged with a crime.

  • Simon
    Simon

    If a cop recognises a fellon and is assaulted in his vehicle before he can even get out, what is he supposed to do? Wait for his friends and let him run away?

    The idea of having cops is to enforce the law. The man had just attacked a policeman in broad daylight. The officer quite rightly told him to stop and you'd think that any sensible person who had a gun pointed at them would comply. He could then wait for backup. Trying to make out he did something wrong is insulting. MB did everything wrong - he ignored repeated commands to stop and instead charged the cop, forcing him to shoot.

    MB was the one who refused to wait for anything. MB is the one that emotions got the better of.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    In regards to the use of Tasers by police officers, yes there has been somewhat of a restraint in the use of these tools but they still are carried by a lot forces, including the ones here in Vancouver.

    The Ferguson police force does have them as well, it wasn't clear whether Wilson had one in his vehicle or not but he did say in court that he didn't carry one for he felt they were too cumbersome to carry on his utility belt.

  • Simon
    Simon

    Whether he had a taser or not is not relevant. You seem obsessed with tasers as the solution but they come with their own problems.

    MB had already tried to get the officers gun. It is totally appropropriate to point it at him and tell him to get on the ground.

  • Pacopoolio
    Pacopoolio

    There is not enough information to know whether "justice" was served fairly or not. And the idea of what justice is, depends on the person asked.

    Lawyer friends of mine stated that the case was not handled well at all, probably because of the media exposure. I don't know enough about the law to comment on that.

    All cops should have GoPros attached to them at all time or something.

  • Simon
    Simon

    No, it depends on the law.

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