OTWO: some here, like little me agree with the findings of the researchers shown in these liknks, but for us the issue is not the mechanism, the process of evolution at all, it is the question at what level,at what stage, time, did what is really physics, came to be a life process and how.
One aspect of evolution that does not make sense.....
by EndofMysteries 153 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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EndofMysteries
Yes, prologos is asking essentially the same question in another way, perhaps his was of phrasing it will make more sense to cofty and OTWO, etc.
I never said I don't believe in evolution, and evolution also does not conflict with creation either. If somebody says evolution conflicts with creation, then that means if or whatever scientists may ever create would be impossible to evolve, including AI.
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EndofMysteries
OTWO - did you even read those 2 horrible articles you linked? The first one says this...."Contrary to popular belief, chameleons cannot display limitless colors and do not change
colors in a camouflage response to their surroundings. Instead, their skin changes in response to temperature, light, and mood." So the first article is denying that chameleons even camouflage themselves. The next article you posted admits that they do, but that they feel the origin of that ability was a communication need.
So which of the two do you believe? I guess you were betting I wouldn't read, but it's obvious you didn't read it yourself or you wouldn't of posted two articles that don't agree with each other.
The 2nd article, national geographic, said because they did one experiment using fake stuffed bird and a fake snake, that chameleons didn't evolve their color changing ability for camouflage. Wow, it sounds like a middle school science experiment and you are just going to accept that as fact? That little test, let's close the book on the issue now.
That's like the WT quoting the faithful slave scripture and applying it to themselves, no questions asked.
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EndofMysteries
O I take back what I just said just on my last post, it's obvious that those two articles that disagree with eachother and one that did one experiment using stuffed animals is at OTWO mentioned me being " so blinded by their own mind and ignore the clear evidence "
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galaxie
I have said in other threads concerning much the same subject, it may be beyond the limits of the make up of our physical brain, to ever comprehend how our physical selves and world were brought into existence(created)but to attach the answer to belief in jealous gods master game plan and all the subsequencies, is presumptuous to the highest degree of ignorance.
Best let science continue with their endeavours in this field, at least they recognise and will try to correct error.
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Space Madness
Bumping to see OTWO's response. It appears a lot of the supporters of evolution are being exposed for not understanding their own beliefs.
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cofty
It appears a lot of the supporters of evolution are being exposed for not understanding their own beliefs.
Can you point to any examples of that?
I see people who have answered question after question from somebody who can't be bothered to educate themseves on the basics.
What is it specifically that you think supporters of evolution don't understand?
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cofty
Just to be clear the question was how camoflague evolved. That has been answered a number of times already.
There is disagreement among scientists over whether the colour changes in cameleons evolved for crypsis or social signalling. So what? Science isn't a body of facts, its a method.
The stuff that isn't yet known for definite doesn't call evolution into question.
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snare&racket
Don't waste your time Cofty, some want answers some want excuses....
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EndofMysteries
cofty - I think he is referring to the 2 articles OTWO posted and then my subsequent reply
colors in a camouflage response to their surroundings. Instead, their skin changes in response to temperature, light, and mood." So the first article is denying that chameleons even camouflage themselves.