Syn: Since you are not getting it I will speak plainly. It is my belief that many words can be applied in many ways. I choose to apply to word god to myself, to you, to each person on this board, to each human that ever has and ever will live, to each entity and creature because it is my opinion that we, not others, should be the captains of our souls. I suggested looking at the merriam-websters dictionary so that yall could get an idea of how I was using the word god. I use it in the most simplistic fashion, such as 'his god is his belly' whereas I mean it 'his god is his choice'. As I stated most people simply cannot handle what I say because they attempt to read more into it than what I am saying. Even when I speak mundanely they still do not get it. Everyone should think of themselves as a god or a goddess and dispense with the need to feel lesser than another. Dispense with the need to be in a constant walking state of grief and shame due to the opinions of others about them. The celts were this way. I am this way.
LucidSky: You just had to go do a search on Omnitheism...hehehehe. Well truthfully bro I did a search after reading your posts and that in essence is what omnitheism is. However, me and some friends were unaware that others were using this term, we thought one of our Gods, Mark, made it up. He coined the word, when we were debating what the name of our overall cult should be. But, as you saw, Omnitheism is in no way unique to us.
As to the panatheism thing, I read your pantheism link and the word I was looking for was panentheism. I read something about that once and it seems very explanatory of some of my concepts. Although each of these religious, philosophical, political, and world views holds something of interest to me. As to a few of the cults I am running I shall give an explanation.
First of course was the Omnitheon. I am possibly going to have to change that after discussion with my Deities and not for profit prophets (Robert, Mark, Rico, and Caty). Now the Omnitheon is just all deities all systems, thus everyone is a member of that cult.
Next is the C.U.{o}L.T. Known as Collective Union of Liberated Thought. I think that explains that.
Then of course we have Nothingism, my brainchild. A very simplecomplex system of denial. We just deny everything. Something is nothing. And in the end there is only nothing, even death is something which makes it nothing.
You can think of C.U.{o}L.T. and nothingism, and the others which I will discuss here, as sub-cults of the main cult. Eventually I will have a website up, and books and so for about mind control, manipulation, describing the psychological ploys of cult-like groups and how to apply them. For a fee anyone can purchase a franchise. There will be various degrees of franchises depending on how much effort you desire from us. So one degree will be as simple as going down a checklist of doctrines you wish your cult to have. Then another checklist for documents you wish as your liturgy, the bible, quran, bagvad gita, dr suess, or the claiming of sleeping beauty (by Anne Rice, though she wrote it under another name). Then the software will automatically go through whichever liturgy you chose, and offer prooftexts for each of the doctrines you chose. For a higher fee we will even offer proof texts and explanations to counter the contradictions in whichever liturgy to your specific doctrines. And yes I know there are a couple of sites out there that do something similar on a cursory level, that's where I got the idea.
Hey, that guy believes such-and-such, so that's true for him. This gal believe this-and-that, so that's true for her.
Exactly. Thus the reason I do not need to save some witness from the Watchtower society. I have a witness friend whose daughter died. He has the hope of the new earth. It is one of the things that keeps him going. Why should I steal that from him? Just because I do not believe in it does not mean it is not true. Also I know very old christians who are near death. Why should I steal the hope of heaven from them, even if they argue about it with me?
That is why I have the second principle in my four pillars. Just because I do not believe in anything, does not mean that thing is not true. My lack of belief should not affect another person's faith system or belief system. That is the reason why, when dealing with christians and other persons of faith or belief systems, I am deliberately ludicrous. If you can hear me say Jesus never existed, and at the same time hear me say that there is no China, then not only can you dismiss me for being a lunatic and unworthy of attention, and your beliefs will be unaffected, you can also get a good laugh, and a spurt of superiority.
As to the rest, being a nothingist has given me a freedom that many people lack. I live entirely guilt free, because I believe that whatever system a person chooses, is what is right for them. They choose heaven and earth and tir na nog. I only go to those places in my dreams and that is good enough for me. WHen I die, I will completely cease, I will join The Great Nothing. And as exciting as all of these other things are for you all, the thought of ceasing is an exciting thought for me.
Og: I have one geis which I did not mention there. When I am dealing with people in any fashion, including my third geis listed there, I must have their consent in order for me to perform my actions. Thus I could only kill someone if I had their consent. However that would violate another geis of mine, I am never to draw blood of a human being except if it is my own blood. Yet another geis, I am only to subdue not kill, even in self defense. And yet another, I am always to first attempt self humiliation in any attack upon my person or body. And still another geis of mine, I must always kiss any man or woman, that has laid a blow of any sort upon me, fist or foot. Which btw I have done, when a men have on occasion struck me in an effort to begin a fight, I have merely leaned forward and kissed them upon their cheek. That usually ends it.
Now as to evil I shall explain. You think that serial killers are evil. I think they are merely a waste. You think rape is evil, I think it is repugnant. As to killing dogs, I am Irish. The dog represents all that is good in Irish culture, loyalty, affection and honesty. Killing a dog would be an ultimate act of evil. However evil, as I define it, is not evil as you define it. You most likely define evil either in relation to some religious liturgy, what 'god' says is evil. Or perhaps in regards to that which causes harm to another, which is often the way the religions came up with it, murder, theft and so on.
When I speak of evil I speak specifically of those things which are outside the confines of polite society. Belching at a presidential dinner, would be evil. Picking my nose in the public library. Scratching my bum. So more specifically evil is merely any act lacking beauty. Beauty is good, ugliness is evil. Now this is not the ugliness that some of you perceive, that this or that one is not attractive. I am usually able to look at a person, even those considered less than attractive, and find something attractive about them. No I mean acts lacking beauty, culture, and grace. That is evil.
All my life I have been beautiful, graceful. But there were always moments that I would seek the ugliness. To fulfil the third geis I do not have to constantly and unceasingly be evil, by being unbeautiful. But I must do so on occasion.
Now I have heard religious people over and over state, if there is no god, or hell, or heaven, you name the topic, then what is the point? If there was no [name topic] then I would be out murdering and raping and robbing. Well you may find the things I am saying disturbing. I rather find those statements of believers far more disturbing, because when they lose their faith, what is left but harm to others? In fact believers that continue believing are among those that continue to cause the most harm. Most killers, robbers, rapists (especially rapists) have a strong belief in a god. And their distorted beliefs will oft lead them to these senseless acts.
A geis is something that often goes with someone throughout their entire life. The only exceptions are geis that are placed upon us by other people, and even then they might continue with us till the next world. Each geis I mentioned above, and in my earlier posts, is a geis that I have had since birth. As with the kissing of those that would fight me, I have done that since I was a child. And when I have finally resorted to physical effort to defend myself, I, in compliance with one geis, merely subdued. A geis is something inborn and unresistable except at great deliberate effort and harm to the individual. That is why I used the cholesterol as an example. Continue to break that geis and you will end up sick, perhaps dead before your time.
Thus the things you mentioned, are unable to be done by me, not because god prevents me out of fear, and if that fear ever disappears then I am free to act. No, these things are inborn to me.
Smoldering wick: I often say some dude said or some broad said when I do not wish to scroll up to see who said what. The others I can quote their sign on names because I have addressed and been addressed by them, so I remember their names. I assume you do know me from yahoo, it is entirely likely. However I do not recall you, assume you used a different nick. Its a bit silly to assume, that despite not knowing who you are, I am still insisting on treating you this way or that because of yahoo.
As to people being my lessers, of course they are. If you have followed this and other threads you will hear me state over and over and over, I am superior to everyone on the planet, I am inferior to everyone on the planet. I do not know how much more plain I can make it than that. As was said on the post about me, either you get me or you dont.
As to me being completely neutral with you, that I saw I could not get under your skin or make you a groupie, well obviously I got under your skin.
Yet, I stayed...for a while, eventually being so repulsed that I did leave.
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How would his presence effect the group? I was taking a break from posting (for other reasons) and when I returned, considered not staying. emphasis added
Nevertheless, since I do not know who you are, even if you were one of the persons who were completely unaffected in any fashion whatsoever, that has no bearing here.
I love these little quips like ....Simon has control of this game. Does he? I am sure if he wished he could remove any thread he wanted. I am sure if he wished he could remove any user he wanted. I also think that he is a fairly reasonable man, judging from the plethora of threads I have read and I have not seen removed. I doubt seriously he will remove threads where people insult me since I cannot be insulted and do not object to it, it is after all an Irish thing, which even some Irish do not get, but the majority do.
I have said nothing different here than I have said on yahoo, save I do not cuss as much. The reason I am not cussing as much of course is because I am not in voice. Certain words just sound beautiful, and I am well known for which words I think those are. On the other hand, the nature of a forum like this is the degree we can go into with our posts. So I evaluate and finally make my post. If a cuss word emphasizes my point I will use it. Often other words make my point and I use them instead.
In any case, Simon can, if he chooses exercise control and censorship. But he does not seem the type of person to do that unless a great extreme has been reached, personal attacks, extreme sex talk(and I mean extreme since I have seen a lot of sex talk here that I might have removed if I were running this forum), even attacks and debates about religion and race have been accepted.
So a little quip like 'Simon controls this game' is said to frighten me into submission, as if you speak somehow for Simon? I trust, that he has read my posts, (having moved one thread about me to another forum) and is able to approach me, in chat, or email, or even on the forum, if he thinks that I am going overboard. (Which is possible at times, I am a loud obnoxious person)
Now as to groupies, well we use that term lightly. The groupies that are groupies of me I am also there groupies. Perhaps lightheartedly Turls will say she is a groupie of mine, but there is no question I am one of her groupies, and Dale's. Those over there, and here, are people that get me on certain levels, even if they cant figure me out entirely. Too people realize that some of the things I am saying, are about freedom, and they seek it. They certainly havent gotten it in just watchtower bashing, not stating of course that the WTBTS does not deserve to be bashed. But many of the things I say, others merely think. Which statement I made some time ago. With me there is never a question of where I stand because I simply say what enters my thought processes. That makes me popular with some, unpopular with others. To be a god I must also be a devil. I do not object to this.
I loved the stuff about the psychopaths, I will have to reread it and see if it applies to me. If it does I am doubly a psychopath because I even break the rules of a psychopath:
Sex for the psychopath is an endless number of exploits and he will often brag about his sexual prowess. Psychopaths have an "inability to form close relationships and (have) a 'promiscuous sexual life.'" (This can be played out online instead of real life)
Regretably I dont have endless numbers of exploits. I have of course had cybersex. And I have ahem 'slaves' online. But even then Ive rarely had cybersex. Though I do enjoy it immensely. Maybe I should try that aspect of psychopathology, I might like it.
I like your three categories, but I would add a fourth, and a fifth,
4...Secret Hygh followers/groupies who worship me from afar but are a bit shy thinking themselves unworthy to approach. You need not fear me oh my followers, I am, though a god, approachable. You too can be a god if you choose, then it will be me fearing to approach you.
5...People with their own minds (the vast majority) who can agree with me on some things, disagree with me on others. People who realize that we do not have to think alike or be alike. People who realize that even though I am off the wall in some respects, they too might be considered off the wall to others. Knowing this, they accept me for who I am without trying to change me, though certainly they are willing to educate me and exchange with me, as they are able to be educated by me. Both superior and inferior and equal to each other and the entire group.
I do not automatically assume that if someone agrees with my on some point, or even vehemently defends my right to say it, that they are a groupie, some in fact defend a person they disagree with on the principle of freedom. Nor do I think that someone (like JT) who disagrees with me is a hater. He disagrees with some things agrees with other things and I see no reason to attempt to box him into a nice tight little label.
(Shout outs to my groupies and worshippers)
Again, I take my stance at indifference. My only hope is that this board does not turn into "A Discussion Forum for Anything Hyghlandyr Related" as did the EXJW room on Yahoo.
Is it me or does this chick or dude seem anything but indifferent?
As to being a forum for anything Hygh related, have you seen how many messages are on this forum?
Also I love how you encapsulate and minimize everyone on yahoo as if all they are capable of is following or argueing with Hyghlandyr. I am sure they appreciate that as well. For those that havent been to yahoo, and the ex witness chats there, it is far more expansive then Wick is making it appear, and the people there are some of the finest people I have met in my life. True I have not met them face to face. I dont care. I trust them and am a better person for having known them. As to why they like me? Because I stand up to the witnesses, yet with the ability to defend them when they have correct facts. So much so that I eventually ran them to paltalk and off of yahoo. And when I say that I mean the elite witnesses who think they are better, not only than us exes, but even each other. The nasty ones are gone. If you dont believe me go check it out for yourself and ask the regulars there.
