"Right to bear arms" should mean ... (page 3)

minimus

Does church and state separation refer only if you're a Puritan?

TD

You people are dangerous.

When was the last time you were face to face with a wild animal large enough to hurt you?

Simon

Another possible solution / approach.

Why doesn't the legalistic nation of America require insurance for gun owners?

If someone is hurt / killed etc... with your weapon then someone will be suing you and taking everything you own.

Of course, you will need insurance to protect against that. And it will cost you. A lot more if your weapon is more dangerous.

Now, at least the rest of America can make money off the nuts who need a gun to make up for their tiny-penis.

minimus

Some people just don't like us people, Americans all that much.

minimus

Simon, stop beating up on tiny penised men, willya?

Simon

When was the last time you were face to face with a wild animal large enough to hurt you?

In total? In my lifetime? Several times. They weren't going to hurt me though because they were in a zoo, ha ha.

I know plenty people who've had run-ins with bears. None felt the need to start shooting though so both they and the bear survived.

Of course they were Canadian.

Simon

Some people just don't like us people, Americans all that much.

Yes, we all hate the American race and snigger at you behind your backs. That's why we don't allow you to join in with Soccer that the rest of us play. Yeah, I know you think it's because you're not really interested in it. We let you have your fantasies.

Pssst ... rest of world, huddle round and lets make jokes about them again ...

Finkelstein

A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths

By Max Fisher

Jul 23 2012, 1:45 PM ET 575

In part by forbidding almost all forms of firearm ownership, Japan has as few as two gun-related homicides a year.

A Tokyo "gun" shop owner, who mostly sells air rifles, displays one of Japan's relatively few licensed rifles. (Reuters)
I've heard it said that, if you take a walk around Waikiki, it's only a matter of time until someone hands you a flyer of scantily clad women clutching handguns, overlaid with English and maybe Japanese text advertising one of the many local shooting ranges. The city's largest, the Royal Hawaiian Shooting Club, advertises instructors fluent in Japanese, which is also the default language of its website. For years, this peculiar Hawaiian industry has explicitly targeted Japanese tourists, drawing them away from beaches and resorts into shopping malls, to do things that are forbidden in their own country.

Waikiki's Japanese-filled ranges are the sort of quirk you might find in any major tourist town, but they're also an intersection of two societies with wildly different approaches to guns and their role in society. Friday's horrific shooting at an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater has been a reminder that America's gun control laws are the loosest in the developed world and its rate of gun-related homicide is the highest. Of the world's 23 "rich" countries, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is almost 20 times that of the other 22. With almost one privately owned firearm per person, America's ownership rate is the highest in the world; tribal-conflict-torn Yemen is ranked second, with a rate about half of America's.

But what about the country at the other end of the spectrum? What is the role of guns in Japan, the developed world's least firearm-filled nation and perhaps its strictest controller? In 2008, the U.S. had over 12 thousand firearm-related homicides. All of Japan experienced only 11 , fewer than were killed at the Aurora shooting alone. And that was a big year: 2006 saw an astounding two, and when that number jumped to 22 in 2007, it became a national scandal. By comparison, also in 2008, 587 Americans were killed just by guns that had discharged accidentally.

Almost no one in Japan owns a gun. Most kinds are illegal, with onerous restrictions on buying and maintaining the few that are allowed. Even the country's infamous, mafia-like Yakuza tend to forgo guns; the few exceptions tend to become big national news stories.

Japanese tourists who fire off a few rounds at the Royal Hawaiian Shooting Club would be breaking three separate laws back in Japan -- one for holding a handgun, one for possessing unlicensed bullets, and another violation for firing them -- the first of which alone is punishable by one to ten years in jail. Handguns are forbidden absolutely. Small-caliber rifles have been illegal to buy, sell, or transfer since 1971. Anyone who owned a rifle before then is allowed to keep it, but their heirs are required to turn it over to the police once the owner dies.

The only guns that Japanese citizens can legally buy and use are shotguns and air rifles, and it's not easy to do. The process is detailed in David Kopel's landmark study on Japanese gun control, published in the 1993 Asia Pacific Law Review, still cited as current. (Kopel, no left-wing loony, is a member of the National Rifle Association and once wrote in National Review that looser gun control laws could have stopped Adolf Hitler.)

To get a gun in Japan, first, you have to attend an all-day class and pass a written test, which are held only once per month. You also must take and pass a shooting range class. Then, head over to a hospital for a mental test and drug test (Japan is unusual in that potential gun owners must affirmatively prove their mental fitness), which you'll file with the police. Finally, pass a rigorous background check for any criminal record or association with criminal or extremist groups, and you will be the proud new owner of your shotgun or air rifle. Just don't forget to provide police with documentation on the specific location of the gun in your home, as well as the ammo, both of which must be locked and stored separately. And remember to have the police inspect the gun once per year and to re-take the class and exam every three years.