Chemtrails, Seeing is believing.

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  • still thinking
    still thinking

    Maybe the chemtrails have more to do with weather control than anything else...

    Weather control and law

    [edit] US and Canada agreement

    In 1975, the US and Canada entered into an agreement under the auspices of the United Nations for the exchange of information on weather modification activity. [ 18 ]

    [edit] 1977 UN Environmental Modification Convention

    Main article: Environmental Modification Convention

    Weather control, particularly hostile weather warfare, was addressed by the "United Nations General Assembly Resolution 31/72, TIAS 9614 Convention [ 19 ] on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques" was adopted. The Convention was: Signed in Geneva May 18, 1977; Entered into force October 5, 1978; Ratification by U.S. President December 13, 1979; U.S. ratification deposited at New York January 17, 1980. [ 20 ]

    [edit] US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

    In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration regulates weather control projects, under authority of Public Law 205 of the 92nd Congress.

    [edit] US Legislation

    The Space Preservation Act was proposed "to preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons." [ 21 ]

    2005 U.S. Senate Bill 517 and U.S. House Bill 2995 U.S. Senate Bill 517 [ 22 ] and U.S. House Bill 2995 [ 23 ] were two bills proposed in 2005 that would have expanded experimental weather modification, to establish a Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and implemented a national weather modification policy. Neither were made into law. Former Texas State SenatorJohn N. Leedom was the key lobbyist on behalf of the weather modification bills.

    2007 U.S. Senate Bill 1807 & U.S. House Bill 3445 Senate Bill 1807 and House Bill 3445, identical bills introduced July 17, 2007, proposed to establish a Weather Mitigation Advisory and Research Board to fund weather modification research [ 24 ] [ 25 ]

    Cloud seeding

    [edit] Cloud seeding for rain

    Cloud seeding is a common technique to enhance precipitation. Evidence on its safety is strong, but there are still doubts about its effectiveness. Cloud seeding entails spraying small particles (like silver iodide) into the sky in order to trigger cloud formation. The hope is that the water vapor already in the air will condense onto the particles, forming clouds and eventually falling as rain. It is, of course, impossible to generate water through cloud seeding; cloud seeding only works to the extent that there is already water vapor present in the air. The principal goal is just to force precipitation to fall in one area instead of another. Critics generally contend that claimed successes occur in conditions which were going to rain anyway. It is used in a variety of drought-prone countries, including the United States, the People's Republic of China, India, and Russia. In the People's Republic of China there is a perceived dependency upon it in dry regions. In the United States, dry ice or silver iodide may be injected into a cloud by aircraft, or from the ground. In mountainous areas of the United States such as the Rocky Mountains and Sierra Nevada, [ 8 ] it has been employed for several decades.

  • botchtowersociety

    Bill Gates wants to vaccinate poor people in 3rd world countries!

    Bill Gates is HITLER!

  • sizemik
    You asked me to post, I have, Where are you ? I gave you all the info you you required, and then you disapeared

    As it was myself who asked these questions originally . . .

    I haven't responded because the hour here required me to spend approx 8 hours sleeping . . . but thanks for the information . . . it's been very helpful.

    Altitude,? best guess between,5000 and 10,000 feet, very unusual here as planes are landing ,couple of thousand feet or lower, or are at 20,000 thousand feet plus, using the jetstream to maximise efficiency

    Near an airport, the volume of incoming and departing flights varies greatly sometimes requiring "stacking". This normally happens between 5,000 and 15,000 feet to avoid overhead traffic as well as landing circuit traffic. Stacked aircraft will fly in various directions and will sometimes make multiple passes.

    airccraft type,? jet and not turbo prop, your standard intercontinental.

    I would ask you to consider two very valid points;

    1. ) Using intercontinental jets for mid-altitude aerial spraying is a very very expensive way to proceed. Large prop aircraft are normally used for this reason (eg cloud seeding) and can be observed at airports where this is carried out.

    2. ) Large inter-continental jets would need to undergo extensive specialised conversions and be dedicated to this purpose. These could reasonably be expected to have been observed by those engaged in the flight control industry at points of take-off and landing.

    same aircraft ? No, The spraying happens in 1 to 2 hours, cross crossing, at that altitude you could.nt tell unless you had accses to Bino,s

    This observation is also typical of aircraft stacking.

    Patterns displayed ? definately, Im looking at a photogragh, I took on a 8.3 mega pixcel camera on the day, resembles a union jack flag, parallels and criss crossing, the white chemicals sprayed out of the aircraft Dont dissapate in a minute or so as those jets that fly at higher altitude do, instead they steadily enlarge, and spread out, and merge with the other chemtrails, and form a milky sky, just like a colloid.

    1. ) A union jack shape while being a pattern in the wider sense, does not constitute an efficient spraying pattern. Wherever the trails intersect, the concentrations effectively double at least. I say at least, because an increase in concentration at a single point acts as as attractant and pulls volume toward it. Such patterns would result in an extremely uneven and inefficient delivery and a wasteful use of product. Parallel lines only would be an expected spray pattern.

    2. ) The lack of dissapation is simply a characteristic of vapour at that altitude. It is the same altitude where cirrus clouds (slow dissapaters) typically form . . . see pervious post. This is also a very untypical zone in which to release spray. The vapour is held aloft for extended periods (sometimes several days) and can travel many miles (1000's) before making landfall.

    does it {spraying} stop abruptly ? That depends on the area they are spraying, I have seen two examples, over our small city, where 1 mile out of town it finishes, very evidentley, spraying the city, and on the East coast where they are spraying, a larger surface area.

    Once again this fit's comfortably with the stacking technique. Most airports utilise two stacking zones which allows for the four different wind direction sectors catered to by landing strips at approximately right angles to each other.

    Time period ? my estimation, monthly

    Periodic occurrance also equates with periodic fluctuation in flight scheduling which is also cyclic

    I have only seen them in the daytime, but then again im asleep at night.

    Clandestine spraying with a sinister purpose would be most effectively carried out under the cover of darkness. There would be less commercial and private traffic and less liklihood of being widely observed. It appears totally unneccessary to carry it out during the day.

    Yes the aircraft follow a pattern, in as much as they create a lattice, that criss crosses.

    Not an efficient spraying pattern . . . see above.

    weather conditions ? I would say that the weather conditions when spraying are fairly benign, 20mph and below.

    Clear skies provide the perfect conditions for mid-altitude and high-altitude contrails to form. Less favorable weather conditions but with little wind allow for spraying to take place without the necessity of leaving observable trails. Would it not make sense to spray when conditions make it less observable?

    While the above answers will undoubtedly prove inconclusive for you . . . it nevertheless raises some significant doubt as to the identity of these as being chemical spraying. The number of commercial flights existing today, coupled with the fact that contrails will show exactly the same characteristics as what you are observing . . . renders your observations way short of conclusive proof that this is chemical spraying.

  • Anony Mous
    Anony Mous

    If Chemtrails existed and were organized why:

    Should you be able to see them? It's more inconspicuous and easier to use a plane or truck and just use the chemical or biological substance without resorting to sprays which contain water.

    Why has nobody leaked the info? We know more about Area51 which is a very small, localized project than a worldwide military, organized, continuously active project.

    What do they disperse and why is it done? It should be easy to fly through a trail and collect what's in it by an independent body as has been done for contrails. Again why don't we see any effects on the population or at least a correlated allergic reaction to either the product or the vapor to disperse it.

    Why do they only occur in flight paths and near airports?

    Learn to do science first before engaging in any meaningful conversation about scientific concepts and projects. This also counts for you bible thumpers engaging in a conversation about history and science in a book full of mythology

  • shamus100
  • shamus100

    Hey, Prodigal Son,

    Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

  • drwtsn32

    Do tinfoil hats protect us from chemtrails?

  • shamus100

    Oh drwtsm, of course not!

    But I do enjoy seeing them freak out and swear on the internet. ;D I guess it's true what they say, the truth does hurt. It hurts a great GREAT deal.

    Hey prodigal son, did you kick the night stand after you went on your rant? Inquiring minds want to know. ;D

  • EntirelyPossible

    Smooches monkey!

    And conspiracy nuts are nuts. that is all.

  • shamus100

    ** tears Entirely Possible's face off **


    Oh hell, this calls for an emoticon.

    Yes, what you say is true. When they can't put together a reasonable argument, they just resort to insults. Whatevah's, I bet his toe is sore from kicking the night stand.

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