Intentional homicides by country
More stats from The UN, no offence BTS but please treat information from the Mail with suspicion most in The UK do
No two countries count homicides the same, LLBH.
US counts things as homicide that the UK does not:
For the UK, "‘homicide’ covers the offences of murder, manslaughter and infanticide."
Homicide does not include “Causing death by dangerous driving” which "includes causing death by careless driving whilst under the influence of drink or drugs and causing death by aggravated vehicle taking."
So, the UK does not include a significant number of careless driving homicides that are included in US homicide numbers.
In the US, an initial categorization of homicide counts as homicide for the national record. In the UK, these come off the rolls if the defendant is later found to be innocent of homicide in court. This inflates US numbers for purposes of comparison.
In the area of murder, analyses typically use FBI homicide reports, but the FBI reports initial police determinations for homicides which tend to undercount civilian defensive shootings (excusable homicides) and over-count felony homicides by about 12%. In UK reporting, homicide classifications and counts are continually revised over time with initial police reports being revised as courts or prosecutors make evaluations.
The Brits reclassify homicides from results of investigations."Where the police initially record an offence as homicide it remains classified unless the police or courts decide later that no offence or homicide took place. This would mean that a defensive killing that a court in England held was justified would no longer be counted in England, but the same would not be true in the US because the FBI homicide classification policy does not allow revisions.
In the US, the FBI classifies homicide according to first police determinations and they are not reclassified by investigations.
However, overall violent crimes are higher in the UK.
We may quibble over exact numbers, but the trends I showed in my previous post are clear.
US crime rates have gradually fallen under a more liberalized firearms regime. The UK's have sharply risen under a more draconian one.
There is simply no logical argument you can make against this factual statement on trends above.