What "invisible" persons do you actually firmly believe in?? (and Why?)

by Terry 96 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Terry

    Imagine that!

    Invisible persons!

    From ancient times some of us have imagined there to be living persons that can't be seen but that are more than real!

    Naturally, people are able to describe these unseen and illustrate them in books and magazines!

    Trick photography enabled inventive hoaxes as well.

    Angels, demons, ghosts, gods, godesses, Jinns, Genies, spirits, wraiths....well--the list is nigh on endless!

    It is one thing to be a kid and have an "invisible friend" or talk to your teddy bear and have conversations with your favorite doll---but, another thing

    entirely to ward off evil spirits or try to invoke a relationship or favors with an invisible being by making promises or giving offerings.

    What is it about invisibility? What makes that a compelling CAUSE FOR BELIEF?

    I have often wondered about the difference between the Old Testament and the New as regards invisible beings.

    For example, how many cases of demon possession are in the O.T.?

    How many reported New Testament cases of demoniacs was simply schizophrenic behavior?

    When a demon "possesses" you how do you manage to stuff thousands of them into just one person? What is the benefit? Where do they fit?

    Remember "Legion?"

    How about the drowned herd of pigs? Seems like demons can get IN but can't get out so easily!

    How large is a demon? The size of a molecule? Does size really matter :)?

    Is all this really pathetic superstition writ large in modern times to scare people into belief in a higher power and seek refuge in institutions of religion?

    When I was taught by Jehovah's Witnesses to believe in demons (around the time starting with the success of the movie "The Exorcist" by the way...wink wink..) I had my bed sheets crawl off of me! Demons of course! Years later, it was pointed out to me that I shake my foot in my sleep (restless limb syndrome) and that was causing the sheet to move! I was totally unaware I was causing it!!

    If you have a category of strong fear about something there is NO DOUBT you will attach significance to anything that suggests the presence of it in your life.

    We all can tell lots of demon stories, for example.

    During the late 1800's and early 1900's there was rampant belief in fairies! I kid you not. It was all started by two young sisters who cut out illustrations of fairies and used the family camera to photograph them among the flowers in their garden. The press went wild and belief spread like wildfire!

    When UFO kidnapping was reported in great detail there was a sudden outbreak of such cases all over by reputable people who sought help with psychiatrists who were only too happy to receive the influx of business!!


    Tell us WHY. And please understand, anecdotal "evidence" amounts to somebody telling you a story.

  • cantleave

    I believe in Bane, Alice in Wonderland and Debator. They are invisible but have a genuine physical effect on me - they make me sick.

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    What timing! Great thread!

    This new un manned jet makes my wonder??! Info just out!

    I'm sure you've heard of the many conspiracy theories...Hanger 18 and Area 51....

    LONDON (AFP) – An unmanned jet capable of striking long-range targets has been dubbed the "combat aircraft of the future" by the Ministry of Defence.

    The Taranis -- named after the Celtic god of thunder -- was unveiled at a ceremony at BAE Systems in Warton, Lancashire, on Monday.

    The £142.5 million prototype is the size of a light aircraft and has been equipped with stealth technology to make it virtually undetectable.

    In a press release, the MoD described the Taranis as "a prototype unmanned combat aircraft of the future."

    It is built to carry out intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance missions while its crew stays safely on the ground and can control the aircraft from anywhere in the world.

    The unmanned fighter jet can also carry bombs and missiles and, if the trials prove successful, the MoD said it should "ultimately be capable of striking targets at long range, even in another continent."

    The current generation of propeller-driven drones -- such as the Predator and Reaper -- are capable of carrying missiles, but these unmanned planes can only be used in areas where the military has air dominance, such as Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The first flight trials are due to start next year.

    "Taranis is a truly trailblazing project," said Minister for International Security Strategy Gerald Howarth.

    "The first of its kind in the UK, it reflects the best of our nation's advanced design and technology skills and is a leading programme on the global stage."

    The Taranis was created by the MOD in partnership with BAE Systems, Rolls-Royce, QinetiQ and GE Aviation.

    "Taranis has been three-and-a-half years in the making and is the product of more than a million man-hours," said Nigel Whitehead, group managing director of BAE Systems' Programmes and Support business.

    "It represents a significant step forward in this country's fast-jet capability.

    "This technology is key to sustaining a strong industrial base and to maintain the UK's leading position as a centre for engineering excellence and innovation."

  • snowbird

    Genesis 1:1 First this: God created the Heavens and Earth—all you see, all you don't see. MSG

    I believe in the Persons who are behind the above event. Though now invisible, years ago, One of the two revealed Himself in the form of a lowly peasant carpenter. The Other has promised to reveal Himself in the future.

    Revelation 21:1 I saw Heaven and earth new-created. Gone the first Heaven, gone the first earth, gone the sea. 2 I saw Holy Jerusalem, new-created, descending resplendent out of Heaven, as ready for God as a bride for her husband. 3 -5 I heard a voice thunder from the Throne: "Look! Look! God has moved into the neighborhood, making his home with men and women! They're his people, he's their God. He'll wipe every tear from their eyes. Death is gone for good—tears gone, crying gone, pain gone—all the first order of things gone." The Enthroned continued, "Look! I'm making everything new. Write it all down—each word dependable and accurate." MSG

    That is my belief, my hope, my faith.

    For me, nothing else makes sense.

    Thanks, Terry.


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  • dgp

    Actually, I did believe in the Invisible Woman. She was one of the Fantastic Four, remember? Sue, the nice blondie? I was always jealous that Mr. Fantastic had found her first. I think Jessica Alba does not do my Sue justice.

    And I also believed in The Invisible Hand, the one described by Adam Smith. The one that makes consumers behave the way they behave.


    I believe in the "Beer Fairy"..

    When I`m out of Beer..

    I wish for more Beer and the "Beer Fairy" brings it..

    I love the Beer Fairy!!..


    ......................... ...OUTLAW

  • Leolaia

    I believe in the invisible time travellers from the future that Michio Kaku says may theoretically exist. Well, not firmly tho. Actually not really at all. I just find this guy so totally sexy.


  • BurnTheShips

    Does Terry believe in minds other than his own?

    Are they visible?

    Can they be empirically proven to the satisfaction of a hard skeptic?


  • JWoods

    Actually not really at all. I just find this guy so totally sexy.
    But not as sexy as the beer fairy.

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