Greetings to you, again, dear Debator... and may you have peace!
Respectfully I believe Your speculations on Paul's words and motivation are beyond what is written. Inspired scriptures God's words cannot cancel each other out You are just making it imperfect words of men but that is unscriptural.
I absolutely AGREE that INSPIRED SCRIPTURES... cannot cancel each other out... which is one of the ways we KNOW that some of the books are NOT inspired. But, again, we also KNOW... that all INSPIRED expressions... do NOT ORIGINATE WITH GOD. So, just because something IS inspired... or one claims to BE inspired... does NOT mean such inspiration... originated with God. Right?
2 Peter 1:20 - Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation.
No PROPHECY of scripture... came about at by the prophet's OWN interpretation. Yes, I absolutely agree. Yet, Paul often gave his own opinion... did he not? Let me ask you: what "law" was Paul referring to when he said "Let the women keep silent in the congregations"? What law, when he said, "I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man but to be in silence?"
I should caution you that you might want to go back and re-read the account of Deborah, a woman, and who all she "exercised authority over" (including not only men, but PROMINENT men) as a judge in Israel... and who established her AS that judge... as well as the account of Huldah, Anna, and the daughters of Philip. And then ponder over GOD'S words, set down by His Prophet JAH-el (known to you, as "Joel") that "I shall pour out my spirit on every sort of flesh, and YOUR sons and YOUR daughters will certainly prophesy."
Yet, Paul... initially tried to restrict this fulfillment of SCRIPTURE. (Hebrews 1:1)
and peter on Pauls words, all of them. "He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."
First, you're assuming (1) that those words "as they do the other Scriptures" is accurate. It is not. The Greek word used by the WTBTS and other translation as "other" is "loipos" which means:
1) remaining, the rest
a) the rest of any number or class under consideration
b) with a certain distinction and contrast, the rest, who are not of a specific class or number
c) the rest of the things that remain
The WTBTS chose, like many others, to use the word in the context of 1a; however the true context is 1b. Why do they use 1a? Because they believe Paul's letters to be "inspired (by God)" and thus "scripture." But Paul's letters are NOT of that "specific class or number" as the scriptures.
Second, you, and they... are dismissing JOHN'S words, which, although ALSO not scripture (not these; his Revelation and gospel account are), state:
"These things I write YOU about those who are trying to mislead YOU .And as for YOU , the anointing that YOU received from him remains in YOU , and YOU do not need anyone to be teaching YOU ; but, as the anointing from him is teaching YOU about all things, and is true and is no lie, and just as it has taught YOU , remain in union with him." 1 John 2:26, 27
Now in light of your words above, that "Inspired scriptures God's words cannot cancel each other out..." I ask you: to whom should I pay attention? Paul, who was NOT one of the 12, who, in fact, did not even ASSOCIATE with the 12 for some 14 years after he almost irreparably divided the Corinthian congregation with his OWN teaching regarding "judging" (which did NOT come from the Holy Spirit - it COULD NOT... because Christ taught a SURPASSING way...); or John... who was not only one of the 12, but anointed for his FAITH (unlike Paul, who was chosen due to a bloodguilt)... AND considered the "beloved" of Christ so that it was HE... and NOT Paul... who received the revelation (although Paul had hoped it would be him)?
Paul said be like him... listen to him... he was their "teacher." John said... listen to the anointing so that you didn't need ANYONE to be teaching you but the anointing from Christ. CHRIST said... well, what DID Christ say about how we would be taught?
The apostles themselves Acknowledged Pauls words to be scripture
Really? Can you show that to me? I mean, I know Peter acknowledged PAUL... but NO WHERE did he say Paul's writings were scripture. He didn't say his were, either. Let's look at Luke's accounts. Before we do, I wish to remind you that "scripture"... is "inspired", yes? And what does "inspired" mean? Well, I know you know that definition "received from God." Okay, I'll grant you that, for purposes of this discussion (the truth, however, is that "inspired" means the person receiving the information was IN SPIRIT. Check out the prophets... and the Revelation. They were all IN SPIRIT when they received their message. But, for now, we'll go with "received from God", however that took place. Now, then, Luke. Let's start with his gospel account. In his opening, he writes:
" Whereas many have undertaken to compile a statement of the facts that are given full credence among us,just as those who from [the] beginning became eyewitnesses and attendants of the message delivered these to us,I resolved also, because I have traced all things from the start with accuracy, to write them in logical order to you, most excellent The·oph´i·lus,that you may know fully the certainty of the things that you have been taught orally."
Okay, we certainly have some problems here with "inspiration," don't we? Let's look:
Who gave Luke his information? If he was "inspired" it would have been God. But where does LUKE say he got it? From "those who from [the] beginning became eyewitnesses and attendants of the message..." Per Luke, "those... delivered these to us." No involvement by, and thus no "inspiration" from, God there.
What about the ACCURACY of what he wrote? Surely, if he received it from God... was "inspired"... it was accurate and could be completely relied on, yes? But what does LUKE say as to how he established its accuracy? Per Luke, "I have traced all things from the start with accuracy..." Now, why in the WORLD would he have to do THAT... if he was "inspired" by God? Surely, the Most Holy One of Israel would not have LIED to Luke? Yet, Luke had to "trace all things"... and "from the start."
What about his commission? Who ASKED Luke to write his account? The Prophets... and John... readily state that they were told to "write"... by God or Christ. Who told LUKE to write? Per Luke, he was commissioned by "you, most excellent The·oph´i·lus." Who the HECK was Theophilus? He certainly wasn't an apostle. Was he even anointed? No. He was a Roman ruler (thus, the "most excellent" address)... who had HEARD about what was occuring between the Jews and the "christians"... particularly Paul ("the things you have been taught orally")... and he wanted to know what the HECK was going on. WHY did the Jews SO hate these "christians" SO much. And much of it was probably taking place in HIS region.
And who did Luke write his account FOR? The congregation? You? Me? "Christians"? Per LUKE... he wrote "in logical order to you, most excellent The·oph´i·lus, that you may know..."
Luke, dear Debator, was a hired investigator for Theophilus. He was not commissioned by God... or inspired by God. He interviewed people and researched what they told him so as to put the events in order... and then he presented his findings to Theophilus. He was accurate, thorough, and articulate. And he was most likely PAID.
C'mon, dear one... WAKE UP! Quit gulping down that tainted 'water'!!
and not of his own interpretation so your saying he can and can't change his personal interpretations is in direct opposition to this biblical fact of all his words being scripture and not of his interpretation.
If it "scripture," dear one... it doesn't change. If it is "scripture"... then it is not of his own interpretation. If it is not of his own interpretation, then HE can't change the interpretation. And, yet, he changed his position... on a number of things. Like the WTBTS does...
As for the position on repentence and forgiveness.... Jesus already set this in a fixed immutable position. "So watch yourselves. "If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. These are non-negotiable words from Jesus. forgiveness only comes after repentence.
You are in error, dear one, and entirely miss the point of this exhortation. My Lord is saying here that if your brother repents, then forgive him. Indeed, IF HE REPENTS... you MUST forgive him. But... what if he DOESN'T repent? Indeed, what if he isn't YOUR BROTHER? I am to direct you to what he said BEFORE that (which is before because Luke says he wrote "in accurate order", so...):
"Continue to love YOUR enemies, to do good to those hating YOU (do those "hating" you repent??), to bless those cursing YOU, to pray for those who are insulting YOU.To him that strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also; and from him that takes away your outer garment, do not withhold even the undergarment. Give to everyone asking you, and from the one taking your things away do not ask [them] back. Also, just as YOU want men to do to YOU , do the same way to them. And if YOU love those loving YOU , of what credit is it to YOU? For even the sinners love those loving them. And if YOU do good to those doing good to YOU , really of what credit is it to YOU? Even the sinners do the same. Also, if YOU lend [without interest] to those from whom YOU hope to receive, of what credit is it to YOU? Even sinners lend [without interest] to sinners that they may get back as much. To the contrary, continue to love YOUR enemies and to do good and to lend [without interest], not hoping for anything back; and YOUR reward will be great, and YOU will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind toward the unthankful and wicked. Continue becoming merciful,just as YOUR Father is merciful. Moreover, stop judging, and YOU will by no means be judged; and stop condemning, and YOU will by no means be condemned. Keep on releasing, and YOU will be released." Luke 6:7-37
What though, if we do what you are suggesting, hold onto our... judgment... UNLESS and UNTIL our "brother" comes and repents? Let's say he doesn't come seven times in one day... but doesn't come for 7 YEARS. Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that we are obeying Christ if we "keep account of the injury" for SEVEN YEARS?? Even Paul wrote that LOVE... which is the Law's fulfillment... "does not keep account of injury" but "bears... ALL things."
Are you suggesting that we can keep account... UNTIL such one repents and that it only THEN that we can "release" him? Seriously??
If so, then I understand why you are still under the control of the WTBTS - because that is THEIR "form of godly devotion," the hypocritical kind that says, "God will forgive ME... indeed, He FORGAVE me even before I was BORN... by giving His Son FOR me... even BEFORE I sinned... but I don't have to forgive OTHERS... unless and until they show ME that they're repentant."
Seriously, dear one? I don't know where such a "hard" heart came from (well, I do know - they "created" it in you - sigh!)... but I hope with ALL of my might that you learn to "soften" it. Because if you do not... it will be softened for you... but not without GREAT pain and sacrifice on your part.
I bid you peace... and a bit of the fruit of my Father's holy spirit that is love... and long-suffering... which you can receive from my Lord, the Holy One of Israel, His Son and Christ, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH... if you so wish it (Luke 11:13). Because I'm thinkin' you might really need some of both, right now.
YOUR servant... and a slave of Christ,