Damage Control on Secret Societies

by alice.in.wonderland 103 Replies latest watchtower bible


    " You will need a much better Education,to debate most of the people here.."

    Eduction? Feel free to join me on msdn.microsoft.com as I do contribute something to society in the way of literary output plus 10 years experience in complex software solutions design, development, and delivery. What do you do?

    Leolaia posts intelligent comments and there are others...(not naming any names) and then are those that must be on hydroponic weed, mushrooms or didn't graduate from the third

    Your Posing as someone who pretends to know a great deal about JW`s..

    Even the most brain dead,Pro WBT$ JW,would`nt respond the way you have..

    Your not WBT$ Trained,to answer correctly..Your not a JW..

    Yet you defend the WBT$..

    Your a Fraud..Now we know it..Why are you here? ..

    ........................... ...OUTLAW

  • poppers

    It only makes sense for those that discovered universal truth to share this with others and unite in an organized manner.

    And how does one know, not believe but know, one has "universal truth"? Which begs the question, what is universal truth?

    The dominant forms of religion in our culture posit a personal god, a Supreme Being, who created the world, is omnipotent and omniscient, imposes moral duties on man, and expects worship.

    Do you see the assumption here? Just because the "dominant forms of religion in our culture posit a personal god" doesn't mean they are correct. Perhaps God is not "personal" but is "impersonal", as many of the eastern religions state. You could counter that assertion by asking "where's the proof of that?" and nobody could provide it, just as you can't provide proof that God is "personal". Either view of God cannot be proven; both are stuck with beliefsonly. Had you been born in another culture with a different "dominant" religion your beliefs would likely be very different and you would likely defend those beliefs just as adamantly.

    The biggest obstacle to most of the proof/ evidence (science based) atheists or agnostics is they haven't observed or experienced any intervention from God in society or in their personal life so they're left with a lot of unanswered questions. This is not the case in Jehovah's Organization.

    So where's the PROOF that "Jehovah's Organization" has experienced "intervention from God"?

    Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld. For by means of this the men of old times had witness borne to them.

    So I'm assuming that it comes down to "faith" for you (and if my assumption is incorrect, show me otherwise). Faith is not proof; it may be a feeling or a belief, but those don't prove anything. Other religions also have those who have faith that their beliefs are the right and true ones, so why should anyone take your faith and beliefs over anothers'? Face it, there is no way for anyone to prove that their particular beliefs or faith is the "true" and "right" one.

  • yknot

    She asks me to answer her question (bottom page 2) before she will answer my very very basic question..... but then doesn't respond ....

    Maybe my patience is just wearing thin.......


    I really am getting tired of these 'fringe' JWs coming on this forum and cut/pasting goobly-gob instead of having 'authentic converstations'.


    I get it they are struggling...


    So here is my advice AIW......

    Take your butt back to the KH (MacGregor or Harold)..... attend every meeting.

    Attend the DC with your congregation (all are held at the Berry Center)

    Shoot for 4-6 hours per week in FS for starters (building up to aux pio hours)

    In your free time instead of musing how smart you are....... read through the publications era by era!

    When you get to present day........come back and have a 'real conversation' not these lame cut/paste accusations that only cast reproach on Jehovah and his Organization.

    There are several older publications found on these sites:




    JWN Poster Chasson has a treasure trove of Pre-Awakes........his full directory http://www.wtarchive.org/deposit/



    Alice can`t answer you..Alice has no idea what your talking about..

    Alice is a Bullshit Artist..

    ........................... ...OUTLAW

  • GLTirebiter

    The biggest obstacle to most of the proof/ evidence (science based) atheists or agnostics is they haven't observed or experienced any intervention from God in society or in their personal life

    Are scientists a big bunch of atheists? Check the links, and allow reality to intrude on this popular misconception.

    The echo of the first intervention still reverberates through the universe. It's called "cosmic background microwave radiation", the ancient radio emissions produced by the Big Bang, also known as "Genesis".

  • alice.in.wonderland

    "I am an active JW....... Jehovah-Father, Jesus-Son, Holy Spirit- Jah's active force.

    So I am sure you discern the importance of displaying accurate knowledge in your answer to my question."

    If you're active as one of Jehovah's Witnesses fine. I'm a baptized publisher and I attend the South Main Congregation. What Hall do you go to and what is your name? [email protected] I can provide that information to you. Nothing is more offensive than someone masquerading as one Jehovah's Witnesses.

  • garyneal

    Alice In Wonderland


    What is WT truth?

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    Alice is a Bullshit Artist


    If she was a Bullshit Artist........ it wouldn't be so obvious she was full of shit


  • yknot

    You didn't answer the question.....

    What is the WTS's Truth..... it's 'good news or gospel' if you will

    What do we mean when we say 'its the TRUTH'?


    [email protected]!!..

    Our regular Non-JW Members,know more than Alice..

    ........................... ...OUTLAW

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