Does anyone have a transcript of this "talk" about oral sex??? It's for my World Religion's research. Is it printed anywhere?
Sunday Public talk that talked about oral sex
by TooBad TooSad 304 Replies latest members adult
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@ hobo ken - it's long been believed that Reniaa is a charlatan troll. When she first appeared on here her story was fairly convoluted and managed to garner some sympathy. However, I don't think she's;
- actually female
- a faded 'doubter' as she has previously claimed
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AllTimeJeff
It could be that Reinaa is a composite sign. You've heard of that before....
*** w0510/1p.4DoYouRecognizetheSignofJesus’Presence?***
This sign is composed of several facets, which together make up a composite identifying mark, or signal—the sign of Jesus’ presence.
Gospel writers Matthew, Mark, and Luke each carefully recorded Jesus’ answer. (Matthew, chapters 24 and 25; Mark, chapter 13; Luke, chapter 21) Other Bible writers added details to the sign. (2 Timothy 3:1-5; 2 Peter 3:3, 4; Revelation 6:1-8; 11:18) Space does not permit a close look at all the details, but we will consider five key elements that make up the sign mentioned by Jesus. You will find that this is relevant and important to you personally.—See box on page 6.
Just like JW's have to take 5 out of context verses to arrive at their ridiculous prophecies, it could be that Reinaa is actually 5 out of context fringe JW's to make the composite "Reinaa"
- Fader
- Stumbled
- Sincere yet Confused
- Werid Study who never got baptized, and no one wants to hang around her
- Weird Study who DID get baptized, for which the elders got a lasihng for allowing.
When you see this composite sign, know that Reinaa is near...
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Vinny
I think Reniaa's probably a legit person. But she is definitely not sold on the JW faith at all.
HoboKen writes:
"Nice work Columbo, how did you dig that one (link) up? I think you should start a thread with that link. People need to know exactly where she really stands."
**** I remember seeing that thread a couple months ago when I was strolling through Topix one evening. I thought her post (that time) was at least sincere.
But on this thread she just lost all credibility, IMO. She's totally struck out here. Seriously, how can you even try to attribute all those Watchtower quotes as applying to "unmarried people", only, or to those that "force their mates" to do sexual practices they do not want? Give me a break. Is she really that blind or just in denial to what's been actually written? The quotes specifically say marriage bed, marriage mates etc each time. Yet she denies it. Amazing stuff.
Ironically, the guy she is asking advice for on that Topix thread, "Topsy", was a JW unbaptized publisher for many years who I would debate with on Beliefnet a couple years ago. He only recently gave up the JW religion altogether because of the flawed blood policy and what he called their overly developed "pharisaical micro-management style". He eventually thanked me for challenging him to think things through and is now completely out. His name on Beliefnet was Wonderingawe.
Feel free to post a new topic with that thread started by Reniaa. I also quoted her just last week from 11 months ago here on JWD. Reniaa then wrote:
"I've been thinking all night how Jw's could drop the date issue and blood, soften the shunning and allow higher education without losing a lot of members. Religions need to change and grow and it's time JW's had a makeover, they did it in the past they just got to learn how to do it now."
**** Those are some big problems she has with WT-Land.
Add that comment on top of the thread on Topix: http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/T08IOCVB7J3FNCKPB
And we can start to see a better picture.
It seems like she is trying to convince herself that Watchtower is chosen by God. Which attempts have obviously been a disaster.
Vinny
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shamus100
BAAAH!
Reinna is an internet idiot in all probability. Who in the hell pulls this kind of crap? A weirdo.
Although I sure like her avatar on the other forum much better!
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sammielee24
if the most recent article you can find that actually states it is 40 years ago 1969 that is the point i'm trying to make. i'm pretty sure the Gb now stay out of the marriage bed
It has not changed - believe what you will - but it has not changed.
I asked my SIL, whose husband is a PO and this is the answer. IF it becomes known that you are having 'perverted sex' aka all the things being talked about here, you MIGHT lose your privileges. It is up to the local body of Elders to decide what action is taken. Hard nosed guys would likely disfellowship, others would counsel and some might ignore it all. This is all about sex between MARRIED couples.
So for anyone trying to drum up articles to support the claim that nobody cares - forget it. If you want to see how far your local body will go, just have a chat with them and tell them you're doing it and see what happens. As I was told IF they know..they have a right to act if they so choose. sammieswife.
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Tatiana
Please? Someone? A transcript? A hidden recording? dates? HELP!
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crazyblondeb
There's a site with some transcripts of talks, i just don't remember where.
ANYONE??
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Sad Michael
Have you all lost the ability to get the sense of it ? The idea is that if he (satan) gets enough dirt stirred up we'll not be able to see the truth
JEHOVAH sees all that is happening in his organization, and relies on us to either sort out the truth from the muck or forgive anyone who can't/doesn't.
All of us should be ashamed when we blame Brooklyn and the GB for our own lack of holy spirit in dealing with the flock whether we are elders or publishers. It's not our flock it's JESUS' he is the fine shepard and all the rest are, at best clever imitations. Sure we miss the mark sometimes, but what GOOD does it accomplish to beat the dead horse of contradicting public talks or WT articles. Just keep putting up with one another and pray for holy spirit to guide us so that our own clean conscience can stay that way. This not only applies to the marriage bed, but to the car group if we partake in tearing apart our own brothers and sisters.
I love you all, but can't we just get along???
I seem to see alot of JW bashing going on here.............where's the love?
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oompa
i am soooo disgusted with all these threads that talk about sexual matters..........cant we just pm this stuff or keep it in the bathroom all by ourselves??????..........oompa
i mean 12 pages already?........