1983 is a long time ago maybe we will get an update soon! and lay this whole conversation to rest. I see others living the life of Jws and find the reality is not the negative spin on here would make it.
This is what I mean about you being indoctrinated Reinaa. JW's are so use to the changing whims of the GB that they subconsciously carbon date their own teachings, waiting for them to be "updated". How could that possibly be truth?
This is an interesting topic, it is one I struggled with in my first JW marriage, and it bears some clarification. First off, the following quote IS the current understanding of oral sex and marriage.
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What, though, if one mate wants or even demands to share with his or her partner in what is clearly a perverted sex practice? The above-presented facts show that porneia involves unlawful sexual conduct outside the marital arrangement. Thus, a mate’s enforcing perverted acts, such as oral or anal sex, within the marriage would not constitute a Scriptural basis for a divorce that would free either for remarriage. Even though a believing mate is distressed by the situation, yet that one’s endeavor to hold to Scriptural principles will result in a blessing from Jehovah. In such cases it may be helpful for the couple to discuss the problem frankly, bearing in mind especially that sexual relations should be honorable, wholesome, an expression of tender love. This certainly should exclude anything that might distress or harm one’s mate.—Ephesians 5:28-30; 1 Peter 3:1, 7.
As already stated, it is not for elders to “police” the private marital matters of couples in the congregation. However, if it becomes known that a member of the congregation is practicing or openly advocating perverted sex relations within the marriage bond, that one certainly would not be irreprehensible, and so would not be acceptable for special privileges, such as serving as an elder, a ministerial servant or a pioneer. Such practice and advocacy could even lead to expulsion from the congregation. Why?
This was recently reaffirmed in this Watchtower from 2 years ago. Notice the footnote at the end of the paragraph.
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8 Hebrews 13:4 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 establish that God disapproves of both adultery and fornication (Greek, por·nei´a). What does the latter include? The Greek term involves the use of the genital organs in either a natural or a perverted way with lewd intent. It includes all forms of illicit sexual relations outside of Scriptural marriage. So it includes oral sex, despite the fact that many teenagers around the world have been told or have come to the conclusion that oral sex is acceptable. True Christians do not guide their thinking and actions by the opinions of “profitless talkers, and deceivers of the mind.” (Titus 1:10) They hold to the higher standard of the Holy Scriptures. Rather than try to make excuses for oral sex, they understand that Scripturally it is fornication, por·nei´a, and they train their conscience accordingly.*—Acts 21:25; 1 Corinthians 6:18; Ephesians 5:3.
*The Watchtower of March 15, 1983, pages 30-1, offers comments for consideration regarding married couples.
In my congregation, an old elder who talked very graphically about sex had this outline taken away from him. I took it, though I probably shouldn't have. No where in the outline is the speaker directed to get into graphic detail about various sex acts. It's a basic talk, but probably the outline that the most liberties are taken with by elders giving it.
The 78 WT article on oral sex in marriage was written by Ray Franz, who admitted as much in CoC. Naturally, the GB went back on anything they didn't like about Ray. Even if that article was clearly most reasonable. In fact, I dare anyone to find a more reasonably written Questions from Readers anywhere in the WT, where they admit they shouldn't go on beyond what the scriptures comment on.
2 sexual topics/concepts found nowhere in the original 66 of the Bible. 1) Oral sex. 2) Masturbation.
2 sexual topics/concepts that are weirdly obsessed on by the GB as being disgusting to Jehovah, yet no where commented on as disgusting to YHWH in the OT. 1) Oral sex. 2) Masturbation.
Things that YHWH doesn't like in the NT... Wait, his name isn't even in the NT..... (Reinaa, if you want to discuss YHWH in the NT, lets do another thread.) My point is, YHWH isn't even powerful enough to include his own name in the NT, nor strong enough to include prohibitions on married people giving head or whacking off. But he leaves that to the imperfect, mistake prone GB, under threat of disfellowshipping, which could lead to eternal death? Those are high stakes, to say nothing of the guilt it engenders in married people, or the improper demonization of the sexual impulses YHWH supposedly created in us.
Reinaa, be a JW if you want, I wish you well, but you simply have this wrong.
