News from downunder - the mystery of the falling tower on 9/11

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  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Appearing in our news today is this item which may, or may not, lay the conspiracy theories to bed. Or maybe not?


    US investigators solve 9/11 mystery

    August 22, 2008, 8:32 am

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    US investigators say they have solved the mystery of the collapse of World Trade Centre building seven in the September 11 attacks.

    The 47 storey trapezoid sat north of the World Trade Centre towers, across Vesey Street in New York city's lower Manhattan.

    On September 11, it was set on fire by falling debris from the burning towers, but sceptics have long argued that fire and debris alone should not have brought down such a big steel and concrete structure.

    Scientists with the National Institute of Standards and Technology say their three year investigation of the collapse determined the demise of WTC seven was actually the first time in the world a fire caused the total failure of a skyscraper.

    "The reason for the collapse of World Trade Centre seven is no longer a mystery," said Dr Shyam Sunder, the lead investigator on the team.

    Investigators also concluded that the collapse of the nearby towers broke the city water main, leaving the sprinkler system in the bottom half of the building without water.

    The building has been the subject of a wide range of conspiracy theories for the last seven years, partly because the collapse occurred about seven hours after the twin towers came down. That fuelled suspicion that someone intentionally blew up the building in a controlled demolition.

    Critics like Mike Berger of the group 9/11 Truth said he was not buying the government's explanation.

    "Their explanation simply isn't sufficient. We're being lied to," he said, arguing that there is other evidence suggesting explosives were used on the building.

    Sunder said his team investigated the possibility that an explosion inside the building brought it down, but found there was no large boom or other noise that would have occurred with such a detonation.

    Investigators also created a giant computer model of the collapse, based partly on news footage from CBS News, that they say shows internal column failure brought down the building.

    Investigators also ruled out the possibility that the collapse was caused by fires from a substantial amount of diesel fuel that was stored in the building, most of it for generators for the city's emergency operations command centre.

    The 77 page report concluded that the fatal blow to the building came when the thirteenth floor collapsed, weakening a critical steel support column that led to catastrophic failure.

    "When this critical column buckled due to lack of floor supports, it was the first domino in the chain," Sunder said.

    The NIST investigators issued more than a dozen building recommendations as a result of their inquiry, most of which repeat earlier recommendations from their investigation into the collapse of the two large towers.

    In both instances, investigators concluded that extreme heat caused some steel beams to lose strength, causing further failures throughout the buildings until the entire structure succumbed.

    The recommendations include building skyscrapers with stronger connections and framing systems to resist the effects of thermal expansion, and structural systems designed to prevent damage to one part of a building from spreading to other parts.

    A spokeswoman for the leaseholder of the World Trade Centre, developer Larry Silverstein, praised the government's work.

    "Hopefully this thorough report puts to rest the various 9/11 conspiracy theories, which dishonour the men and women who lost their lives on that terrible day," said Silverstein spokeswoman Dara McQuillan.

    In discussing the findings, the investigator Sunder acknowledged that some may still not be convinced, but insisted the science behind their findings is "incredibly conclusive".

    "The public should really recognise the science is really behind what we have said," he said, adding: "The obvious stares you in the face."

  • shamus100
    shamus100

    WHAT???? Elvis didn't do it? Jesus didn't do it? You're saying ALIENS didn't do it? I don't believe you.

    You chozzwagger.

  • HAL9000
    HAL9000

    Flying Spagetti Monster or Ceiling Cat are my best guesses as to the real culprit.......

    Seriously, many people have difficulty in understanding that unpredictable / unbelievable things happen in catastrophes. It takes careful, considered research to uncover the underlying causes of these events. Unfortunately a considered, well researched opinion is not juicy enough for many!

    Conspiracy theorists - bah!!!!

  • golf2
    golf2

    Your comments is well accepted. Am I to believe the governments version?



  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Oh, it was a mystery? Fancy that. I have heard it totally explained. Why is a new explanation necesary, if it was already explained? Strange.

    S

  • sf
    sf

    LOL!! What a joke.

    sKally

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    itr was the CIA - no sorry the communists - no sorry the gays - no sorry the Jews

  • shamus100
    shamus100

    DON'T SAY GAYS! IT'S TOO SOON, IT'S TOO SOON!

    MODERATORS, MODERATORS....

  • heathen
    heathen

    Just as I figured the Aussies are in on it as well . They were burning down their own out back last year , I guess that was just a freak of nature as well ? tongue in cheek there don't get excited serious conspiracy people..............

  • What-A-Coincidence
    What-A-Coincidence

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/164553/3048420/post.ashx#3048420

    So if NIST is headed by Bush-appointed officials, then is it fair to say that the Bush administration is, in effect, investigating itself?
    This administration is, in effect, proclaiming itself innocent of the very crime of which it is a primary suspect, and most people, as usual, will fall for this self-awarded verdict hook, line and sinker.
    Didn't nist or fema say that the building collapsing from fire had a low probability of occurance. I guess they upped the probability from low to 100%.

    "According to a federal agency report released Thursday, a "new phenomenon" known as thermal expansion was directly responsible for the mysterious collapse of World Trade Center 7 on Sept. 11, 2001." HAHA they couldn't explain it so they decided to invent a new phenomenon. lol that is pathetic... i didnt see that earlier. I think this report is just going to make more people more skeptical. NWO f**ked up and cant provide rational explaination so they are introducing new laws of physics i guess.
    Professor David Ray Griffin, lays out over 10 major points in support of controlled demolition of WTC 7. Some of his most compelling points are included below.

    No large steel-frame building has ever collapsed due to fire. The official explanation given by the government teams is that fire destroyed both towers and building 7. The damage from the aircraft and debris are admitted to have played an insignificant role.
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    The collapse of all three buildings occurred in a symmetrical, straight down fashion, into their own footprint. While dust and debris may have been ejected outwards, the structures essentially fell in on themselves, leaving surrounding buildings essentially undamaged.
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    The buildings collapsed at almost free-fall speed. This means that each building must have experienced some spontaneous global structural failure so that there was no resistance or delay in the collapse. The official “pancake theory” for the towers is untenable because as upper floors supposedly collapsed onto those below, there would have been structural resistance. Instead the collapses began almost instantly and showed no signs of resistance.
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    According to the 9/11 Commission, “The interior core of the buildings was a hollow steel shaft, in which elevators and stairwells were grouped” (p. 541). In fact, the core of the towers was actually a support system of 47 massive steel columns. The commission just ignored these because their existence conflicted with the official story of spontaneous global collapse.
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    All three buildings were completely destroyed. The resulting piles of rubble were only a few stories high and there were no large, structural pieces left. If you consider the structual engineering strength and redundancy put into the buildings, it is ridiculous to attribute this result to a “structural failure” or simple “collapse.”
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    Nearly all the concrete and non-metallic substances in the towers were pulverized into a fine powder. The gravitational energy of a simple “collapse” would not have been sufficient to cause this pulverization.
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    Molten Steel was also observed by multiple witnesses at ground zero, even weeks after 9/11. The energy needed to melt steel would only been possible through the use of explosives or other foreign, high-energy devices. Jet fuel and the collapse of the buildings could not have created enough heat or energy to leave molten steel.
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    Firefighters, initial news reports and other witnesses prominently reported secondary explosions within the towers.
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    WTC 7 housed the New York offices of the CIA, Secret Service, SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission), and Rudy Giuliani’s Office of Emergency Management bunker.
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    The New York Times on WTC 7: “no building like it, a modern, steel-reinforced high-rise, had ever collapsed because of an uncontrolled fire… Because of those doubts, engineers hold open the possibility that the collapse had other explanations, like damage caused by falling debris or another source of heat….A combination of an uncontrolled fire and the structural damage might have been able to bring the building down, some engineers said. But that would not explain steel members in the debris pile that appear to have been partly evaporated in extraordinarily high temperatures, Dr. Barnett said.”

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