Sylvia, I'm not trying to offend you. This is nothing personal. It is just a discussion. Don't take my words to be directed at you as though I find you lacking in some way. Far from it.
I'm challenging what you say--apart from who you are.
Now, as to your above response.
You do realize you are asserting something here. You are making a definitive statement and saying, in effect, "My statement is based on nothing!"
I find that extraordinary. Why don't you?
Love has no basis? Love has no object? Love has no reasons?
Wouldn't that mean Love has no merit either?
When you say "It simply is ." Simply is what ? An empty statement with nothing behind it?
You see the problem here?
Would you accept a paycheck without money to back it up? Your employer could say to you, "But, I gave you your paycheck!" And you'd reply, "But, I can't spend it--there is nothing to back it up!!" And your employer would reply with a huge smile, "Your paycheck doesn't need a basis in cash---it simply is!"
See how uncomfortable and useless this would be?
For anything to exist at all it has to be something . That something must possess an identity . Identity comes from the actuality of what that something is made of apart from what it isn't made of . Otherwise, everything is everything and everything can also be nothing!
It all comes apart unravelling quickly if you don't make things accountable to proof, evidence, definition and substantial demonstration of existence. That is what information is all about, connecting what is with reports of it in detail.
Otherwise, we are all walking around writing checks to each other on credit without a cent in the bank to back it all up.
You simply must understand that LOVE is from what is valued. Hate is from what has no value . Love is an involuntary emotional response to encountering our strongest values. Hate is an involuntary emotional response to seeing what we most value threatened, harmed or destroyed.
Nothing simply IS apart from value.
You might want to review Perry's use of Tautology and ask yourself if you really want to go fishing in his boat!
Terry, I work in IT. I do a lot of networking.
What you have here is what we call a "routing loop".
Once wonders what your TTL is.
Some things simply are.
Easy to understand if you ask me. Stunningly simple.