A STUNNINGLY simple question about JOHN 3:16 "For God so Loved the world." (page 29)

toreador

But, pontificating puerile pettifoggery prevents the possibility

LOL, how on earth do you come up with this stuff. I had to look up two of those words in that sentence.

Deputy Dog

Terry

On what would that mercy be founded?
God's pleasure?

Romans 5:1

Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.3 And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance; 4 and perseverance, proven character; and proven character, hope; 5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us. 6For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

If you will not accept scripture like this, you are right, you have no basis upon which to accept God's grace or mercy.

To think we could earn grace or mercy, is to rob God of the glory that belongs to Him.

lalliv01

Terry, how about this? God loved the world so much that He provided a "whipping boy" to accept the punishment in lieu of the world. Why? Well, just as in days of old, a noble person was too important to be literally whipped for a misdeed so a substitute, a scapegoat, was used to receive the punishment meant for the "important" person. So then, "the world" must be so important in God's eyes that a scapegoat had to be produced to receive the alloted punishment.

How is the world of mankind important to God? Well, to a dead person the universe does not exist, God does not exist. The scriptures tell us that God is not a God of the dead but of the living. This makes sense since the dead know not that a god exists and hence could not worship him. Without "the world" of mankind there is no god, no fulfillment of His intended purpose for creating mankind. His purpose, reverting everything back to Him, making Him the "decider", then is the reason for Gods repentence and thereby making Himself the basis for "justice" in this matter.

God wants a world of perfect humans to exist on this earth and this could only happen if He, and only He, contravened to put a halt to mankind's eventual extinction.

No world=No God=A God that cannot fulfill His purposes. Can't have that, where's the whipping boy?

R.Crusoe

It is gods pleasure that we all are not eternally tormented our due deserved reward?

Or

We are not simply removed as life forms?

Which is it Jonathan Edwards alludes to?

In eiher case it is a disgusting sugestion when I percieve the vastness of aborted foetuses aand young incapable of wrongdoing!

Let alone the number of humans driven to stresses and angst by humans around them and branded for their reaction!

Who chooses this life?

All are cast into it like meat into a shredder and judged for coming out mis-shappen = what neuronlessness do we have here??

toreador

Thanks again Sylvia! This could come in handy someday!

Tor

snowbird

LOL, how on earth do you come up with this stuff. I had to look up two of those words in that sentence.

I, who always the teachers' pet, had to look up pettifoggery - arguing or quibbling over insignificant details.

Thanks again Sylvia! This could come in handy someday!

No problem.

Sylvia

Terry

As I asked before "How does one deserve mercy?" If you earn "it", it's no longer mercy, it's a reward.

Yes! And that is key to my point.

Among rational and logical humanity there exist reasons for showing mercy. What constitutes a just reason comes down to the standards of each judge and each court.

Mercy shown to the absolutely undeserving reflect back upon the Court as Injustice. (As in the case of the Child Molesters let back into the community to offend again.)

A righteous Divine God who shows mercy is held to the highest of all possible Just Standards.

Where could He possibly Justify (in the Judicial sense) letting off the wicked and excusing their crime?

That IS my question, after all!

R.Crusoe

We have circles within spirals enmeshed and unlikely ever un-knotted from their blinkered realities by virtue of historical ripples and conditions preordained them.

A soldier offers his life to defend a cause later deemed by himself a devious cause and one he would not freely choose to have submerged himself/herself in!

During the heat of conflict chaos reigns and reactions are reality!

Killing is unavoidable but no crime is commited due legality deeming it so!

But divine principles lay heavy on the heart and also are the foundation of most criminal law! They have the ultimate judge dispensing ethics which are well known to include human death. So the soldier has a personal dysfunction in spite of legality overuling divine principles!

We have a paradox!

Terry

God wants a world of perfect humans to exist on this earth and this could only happen if He, and only He, contravened to put a halt to mankind's eventual extinction.
No world=No God=A God that cannot fulfill His purposes. Can't have that, where's the whipping boy?

I fear your logic may be inescapable!

Terry

But divine principles lay heavy on the heart and also are the foundation of most criminal law! They have the ultimate judge dispensing ethics which are well known to include human death. So the soldier has a personal dysfunction in spite of legality overuling divine principles!
We have a paradox!

Any set which self-references becomes paradoxical.

A set which contains all categories cannot contain itself.

The barber who cuts the hair of all people who don't cut their own hair. Can he cut his own hair?

A STUNNINGLY simple question about JOHN 3:16 "For God so Loved the world."

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