: Funny thing isn't it.
No, it's actually pretty sad, how you can on the one hand ignore the Bible's unambiguous words and on the other hand declare it to be the Word of God, and on the one hand ignore the Society's unambiguous Scriptural interpretation of the 70 years of Tyre and on the other hand declare JW leaders to be "divinely directed".
: I show you how you are absolutely and totally wrong about what Ezekiel said about Tyre and what are your replies. All you can do is ignore my argument and declare me an apostate trying to outdo Robert King, and ignoring all your arguments when I have clearly and solidly debunk your outlandish and unreasonable and unbiblical arguments.
LOL! All of your arguments have been thoroughly debunked. That you refuse to admit it is like the Black Knight in the move Monty Python and the Holy Grail, balancing on his legless torso and flailing his armless stumps, hollering, "Come back and fight!" You've proved yourself, not just an apostate, but a moron.
: You say: Your ignoring all arguments set before you well illustrates the general moral stupidity induced in JWs by years of Watchtower indoctrination.
: Except that you're quite an anomaly in that you promote apostate views about the meaning of the 70 years for Tyre, even while railing against your fellow apostates. Are you trying to outdo Robert King?
You are most certainly an apostate as the Watchtower Society defines the term. You claim that Tyre was never rebuilt, and by extension that the Temple and Jerusalem were never rebuilt. Yet the Society states clearly that, after its destruction, Tyre was rebuilt:
it-2 p. 1136 Tyre
Despite the city’s total destruction by Alexander, it was rebuilt during the Seleucid period, and in the first century C.E. it was a prominent port of call on the Mediterranean.
w59 5/15 p. 311 Tyre -- City Where Mammon Was God
In the years that followed Alexander’s conquest of Tyre, the island city managed to rebuild itself a number of times . . .
pm chap. 16 p. 263 Presentation of the King Brings Release to Prisoners
The mighty rampart that Tyre built for her protection as a seafaring, commercial power did not withstand the strategy of the Grecian conqueror, Alexander the Great, in 332 B.C.E. . . Years later Tyre was rebuilt.
And contrary to your implied claims, the Bible says that both the Temple and Jerusalem, having been ruined, were rebuilt:
(Ezra 1:3) So let him go up to Jerusalem, which is in Judah, and rebuild the house of Jehovah.
(Ezra 5:2) Jesh´u·a the son of Je·hoz´a·dak got up and started to rebuild the house of God, which was in Jerusalem.
(Ezra 5:16) When that Shesh·baz´zar came he laid the foundations of the house of God, which is in Jerusalem; and from then until now it is being rebuilt but it has not been completed.
(Ezra 4:11-13) "To Ar·ta·xerx´es the king your servants, the men beyond the River: And now 12 let it become known to the king that the Jews who came up here from you to us have come to Jerusalem. They are building the rebellious and bad city, and they proceed to finish the walls and to repair the foundations. 13 Now let it become known to the king that, if this city should be rebuilt and its walls be finished, neither tax nor tribute nor toll will they give.
(Nehemiah 2:17) "YOU are seeing the bad plight in which we are, how Jerusalem is devastated and its gates have been burned with fire. Come and let us rebuild the wall of Jerusalem, that we may no longer continue to be a reproach."
(Nehemiah 7:1) And it came about that, as soon as the wall had been rebuilt, I at once set up the doors.
(Isaiah 44:24-28) This is what Jehovah has said, your Repurchaser and the Former of you from the belly: "I, Jehovah, am . . . the One saying of Jerusalem, ‘She will be inhabited,’ and of the cities of Judah, ‘They will be rebuilt, and her desolated places I shall raise up’; . . . even in [my] saying of Jerusalem, ‘She will be rebuilt,’ and of the temple, ‘You will have your foundation laid.’"
(Daniel 9:25) And you should know and have the insight [that] from the going forth of [the] word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem until Mes·si´ah [the] Leader, there will be seven weeks, also sixty-two weeks. She will return and be actually rebuilt, with a public square and moat, but in the straits of the times.
So does the Watchtower Society:
it-1 p. 51 Adornment
The temple rebuilt by Herod was a magnificent edifice.
w94 6/1 p. 9 Have You Found the Right Religion?
The Bible . . . foretold the destruction of ancient Tyre, the fall of Babylon, the rebuilding of Jerusalem.
it-1 p. 95 Ammonites
Following the return of the Jews from exile (537 B.C.E.), an Ammonite named Tobiah took a leading part in endeavoring to obstruct the rebuilding of Jerusalem’s walls.
it-1 p. 182 Artaxerxes
Artaxerxes Longimanus granted permission to Nehemiah to return to Jerusalem to rebuild the walls and gates of the city.
And of course, the Society admits that other ancient cities were rebuilt:
it-2 p. 401 Miletus
In the fifth century B.C.E. the Persians captured and destroyed Miletus for having shared in revolt. Later (in 334 B.C.E.), the rebuilt city fell to Alexander the Great.
Reveling in your apostasy, you have the nerve to say:
: Then Alan and Steve say:
:: ... the rebuilt Tyre sits there, obstinately declaring "Here I am!"
: It doesn't matter which why you phrase it, this did not happen.
The Society declares that you are wrong, you wiley old apostate!
: So you are now reduced to one point and that point involves declaring the Bible to be wrong.
Actually, many posts, including this one, show that you claim that the Bible is wrong.
This is much like the old Vietnam era saying, "We had to destroy the village to save it!"
: You prove our point. 587 proponents must disregard the Bible to prove 587.
Again, we have shown that it is you apostate JW defenders -- including apostates like you -- who disregard the Bible. You do it on many fronts, as this thread has amply shown.
: You say that Tyre was rebuilt
So does the Society.
: and that the prophecy was wrong.
No choice. The present 270,000 inhabitants of Tyre would disagree with you.
: The mainland ruins of old Tyre and the underwater ruins of Island Tyre is good enough for me.
Yet another transparent misrepresentation. The point is not that Tyre was ruined -- all participants in this thread know this quite well -- but that it was rebuilt.
Your moral stupidity is evident when you refuse to acknowledge that "rebuilt" means "rebuilt".
: If you want to quivel
The word is "quibble".
: and split hairs with Jehovah
No. I'm arguing with you, you moron.
: as to what he meant when he said Tyre would never be rebuilt, then have at it.
I suggest that you write a letter to the Governing Body and have them correct what has been written in Watchtower publications.
: My advice to others is don't stand to close to you.
LOL! Like my Brooklyn-raised Grandpa would say, "You're some piece of woik!"