by MacHislopp 501 Replies latest watchtower scandals
truth1,
the gb and their toadies are probably reading this thread right now.
This is the usual method of "research" for the WTS. Kinda cool to know that "new light" actually comes from apostates, huh? (Quite an epiphany for me, when I first realized this fact.)
TS,
"New light' has been coming from apostates since the late 1800's. Whaere have you BEEN?
((((((((Trevor Scott)))))))
Dungbeetle...so much dung, so little time...
Hello everyone,
I have followed the latest news
on this thread and I wish to make some comments.
Messenger : Thanks for posting the quotes and for the
information about DPI material and the Awake !
The quotes are a good reference.
Bluesapphire : I do like the way you have written your thoughts.
Nice line of reasoning. I’m wondering what will happen next !
Belbab : a good point about Afghanistan. Everybosy knows that
clandestine proselitism is a very hot issue in many countries.
That includes smuggling « religious literature « taking advantage
of some organisation...United Nations !
Tanalyst : True. the Internet is exposing everyday, in various part
of the world the...hidden face of the WTBS and their tactics so that
many that were in complete darkness now...THEY KNOW and as
the phrase goes : « The truth will set you FREE ... »
Dbeetle : great information about the YMCA, including the words
that I personally didn’t know. The informations about YMCA
are more relevant to the USA, where it enjoys a great popularity.
Nelly 136 : Powerfull logical reasoning ! Thanks for the quotes.
Bj : w 15.4.96 p.12-13 §§ 6-10 - Here they are ...the pages in
English...
*** w96 4/15 12-13 Why Worldly Religion Will End ***
False Religion Indicted
6 Although millions in Christendom regularly use the Lord’s Prayer, in which they pray for God’s Kingdom to come, they have assiduously supported every form of political expression, to the exclusion of that theocratic rule. Centuries ago “princes” of the Catholic Church, such as Cardinals Richelieu, Mazarin, and Wolsey, acted also as secular statesmen, ministers of government.
7 More than 50 years ago, in the booklet entitled Religion Reaps the Whirlwind, Jehovah’s Witnesses exposed Christendom’s involvement with politics. What was said then applies with equal force today: “Honest investigation of the conduct of the religious clergy of all denominations will reveal that the religious leaders of all ‘Christendom’ are participating with keen interest in the politics of ‘this present evil world’ and are dabbling in its mundane affairs.” Back then the Witnesses castigated Pope Pius XII for his concordats with Nazi Hitler (1933) and Fascist Franco (1941), as well as for the pope’s exchange of diplomatic representatives with the aggressor nation Japan in March 1942, just a few months after the infamous Pearl Harbor attack. The pope failed to heed James’ warning: “Adulteresses, do you not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God.”—James 4:4.
8 What is the situation today? The papacy is still involved in politics, both through its clergy and through its laity representatives. Recent popes have put their stamp of approval on the United Nations by addressing that man-made counterfeit for world peace. A recent issue of L’Osservatore Romano, the official Vatican newspaper, announced that seven new diplomats, “ambassadors to the Holy See,” presented their credentials to the “Holy Father.” Could we imagine Jesus and Peter being involved in such diplomatic exchanges? Jesus refused to be made king by the Jews and said that his Kingdom was not of this world.—John 6:15; 18:36.
9 Are Protestant leaders any better than their Catholic counterparts? In the United States, many conservative Protestant religions, and Mormons as well, are identified with a certain political orientation. The Christian Coalition is deeply involved in U.S. politics. Other Protestant clergy clearly identify with a different political stance. It is sometimes forgotten that in the United States, political spokesmen such as Pat Robertson and Jesse Jackson are or were also “Reverends,” as is British member of Parliament Ian Paisley of Northern Ireland. How do they ever justify their positions?—Acts 10:34, 35; Galatians 2:6.
10 As Religion Reaps the Whirlwind asked in 1944, so do we now: “Can any organization that enters into treaties with worldly powers and actively wiggles itself into the political affairs of this world, seeking advantage in and protection from this world . . . be God’s church or represent Christ Jesus on earth? . . . Manifestly, all religionists who make common cause with the kingdoms of this world cannot represent the kingdom of God by Christ Jesus.”
Excellent research and ....powerfull quote!!!
Hawkaw: Thanks for your excellent comments. In particular
that one about the UN ‘s CHARTER and the WTBS literature.
Thanks for the links...will browse them.
Map: Thanks fot the quote - w 1.10.95 p.4
Here copied for everyone:
*** w95 10/1 4-5 Fifty Years of Frustrated Efforts ***
The Media’s Influence
As powerful as the United Nations may appear to be, its efforts are often thwarted by politics and the media. The United Nations is powerless if it lacks the support of its members. But without the public’s approval, many UN members will not support the United Nations.
For instance, according to The Wall Street Journal, the “spectacular failures in Somalia and Bosnia have persuaded many Americans that the organization isn’t just wasteful, but actually dangerous.” This attitude of the public has, in turn, persuaded some American politicians to propose reducing U.S. financial support of the United Nations.
News organizations are not shy when it comes to criticizing the United Nations severely. Terms like “total incompetence,” “cumbersome,” “inefficient,” and “paralyzed” have been unreservedly used when describing various aspects of UN operations. The Washington Post National Weekly Edition recently stated that “the United Nations remains a slow-motion bureaucracy struggling to adapt to a real-time world.”
Another newspaper quoted Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali as expressing his frustration with the Rwanda massacres. He said: “It is a failure not only for the United Nations; it is a failure for the international community. And all of us are responsible for this failure.” A popular television news-special in 1993 stated that the United Nations “has failed to stop the greatest threat to peace—the spread of nuclear weapons.” The TV program spoke of a United Nations that “for decades has been mostly talk.”
This widespread feeling of disappointment weighs heavily on the minds of United Nations officials and adds to their frustration. Yet, despite the frustrations, at the 50th anniversary of the United Nations, many seem to have renewed optimism and are hoping for a fresh start. Although acknowledging the shortcomings of the United Nations, Ambassador Albright echoed the sentiments of many when she said: “We have to stop talking about where we’ve been, and we need to talk about where we’re going.”
Yes, where is the world going? Will there ever be a world without war? If so, what role will the United Nations play in it? Moreover, if you are God-fearing, you should ask, ‘What role will God play in it?’
[Box on page 4]
FRUSTRATED EFFORTS
Peace and security cannot exist as long as there are war, poverty, crime, and corruption. The United Nations recently released the following statistics.
Wars: “Of the 82 armed conflicts between 1989 and 1992, 79 were domestic, many along ethnic lines; 90 per cent of casualties were civilian.”—United Nations Department of Public Information (UNDPI)
Weapons: “The ICRC [International Committee of the Red Cross] estimates more than 95 manufacturers in 48 countries are producing between 5 and 10 million anti-personnel mines each year.”—United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR)
“In Africa, there are about 30 million mines scattered over 18 countries.”—UNHCR
Poverty: “Worldwide, one out of every five people—more than one billion in all—live below the poverty line, and an estimated 13 million to 18 million die annually of poverty-related causes.”—UNDPI
Crime: “Reported crime has grown at a world-wide average of 5 per cent each year since the 1980s; in the USA alone, there are 35 million crimes committed annually.”—UNDPI
Corruption: “Public corruption is becoming commonplace. In some countries financial frauds are estimated to cost the equivalent of 10 per cent of the country’s annual gross domestic product.”—UNDPI
°°°°Right on the mark !!!
Truth 1 : good suggestion “ break the news gradually “..
I think it will avoid unnecessary conflicts and straine relationships.
Trevor Scott: Thanks for the comment. I’m quite sure – cannot
say certain – that the WTBS “ internet watchers “ are reading with
great attention all the threads of this Forum, ...and others.
This one about the NGO’s must be quite at the top of their
viewing list!! Btw, I have “heard “ that after every two hours
of watching the “Internet “ the - watchers – do take a break!!!
(I don’t know if it is true ...but ...!)
Thanks again to all of you for the collaboration , your time and
efforts, greeting, J.C.MacHislopp
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".
MAJOR news from tribolite.
Resolutions 1296 and 1297 from ECOSOC 1968
( http://www.globalpolicy.org/ngos/ngo-un/info/res-1296.htm
( http://www.un.org/partners/civil_society/docs/ngo1297.htm
hawk
In resolution 1297 I read:
2. Calls upon the Secretary-General to ensure that the Office of Public Information, while reviewing the status of present organizations or considering new applications, excludes all those organizations whose aims or practices tend or contribute to the propagation of nazi ideology and racial and/or religious discrimination;
The former Office of Public Information is now call the Department of Public Information.
So does the UN consider religious discrimination to be promoting the shunning of someone because that person decided to change their religious belief.
Maybe Kent should send a url link copy of the Flock book and a few BOE letters to DPI.
hawk
As most are aware, I've tried to encourage everyone to keep our terminology accurate in describing the WTS's "association" with the UN. I'm happy to report that I've found UNDPI using stronger terminology than "associate", "association", "associative status", etc.
This UNDPI webpage refers to NGOs as "PARTNERS" several times. This should make a significant difference to those JWs who wish to label the WTS's association with UNDPI as a mere registration.
NGOs: Working with Permanent Missions to the UNA DPI/NGO Communications Workshop
Organized in cooperation with the NGO/DPI Executive CommitteeTHURSDAY 31 MAY 2001
10:30 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.
Programme for Workshop
The NGO Section of the Department of Public Information (DPI), in cooperation with the NGO/DPI Executive Committee, is pleased to announce another in its series of DPI/NGO Communications Workshops. The workshops aim to strengthen cooperation between NGOs and the United Nations in creating an informed understanding of the work of the Organization and to explore new means of communications to advance the common agenda of the UN and its NGO partners.
The daylong workshop, entitled NGOs: Working with Permanent Missions to the UN, will take place at UN Headquarters on Thursday, 31 May 2001 from 10:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. The morning session will take place at the Dag Hammarskjöld Library Auditorium from 10:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. as part of the usual Thursday morning NGO briefing programme. The afternoon session, from 2:30 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. will take place in Conference Room B.
The workshop will feature experienced NGO, UN and Mission representatives who are familiar with relations between Permanent Missions to the UN and NGO partners.
Interested NGOs that are currently associated with the DPI or have consultative status with the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) are invited to assign one representative to attend the workshop. Interested NGO representatives should sign up for the workshop by calling (212) 963 6883, register at the NGO Resource Centre Room L-1B-31, or send an e-mail to " [email protected]". Make sure that your UN pass is valid. If not, please make arrangements by contacting the NGO Resource Centre at tel.: (212) 963-7233/4 or 963-7078 or fax: (212) 963-2819.
We look forward to having you join us in this special effort to strengthen cooperation between NGOs and the Permanent Missions to the United Nations.
EDIT TO ADD LINK:
. http://www.un.org/MoreInfo/ngolink/wsmay01.htm
How Article 71 in the UN charter and Resolutions 1996/31 and 1296/1968 at ECOSOC all tie in together/
( http://www.globalpolicy.org/ngos/ngo-un/info/status.htm
NGO Status at the UN
NGO's won a place in the original UN Charter. Article 71 says that the Economic and Social Council "may make suitable arrangements for consultation with non-governmental organizations which are concerned with matters within its competence." NGOs can give their opinions on social and economic matters, but in the powerful political organs -- the General Assembly and the Security Council -- they did not get a role.
Resolution E/1996/31 adopted in July 1996 to replace Resolution 1296 of May 1968 rules the current arrangements for consultation with non-governmental organizations.
It introduced some changes and more are in process, but the general framework of NGO status continues in a similar form. At the top are three levels of consultation with the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC). This status allows some direct participation in the intergovernmental process. Below ECOSOC status, there is "association" with the Departement of Public Information(DPI), which does not allow participation, but does permit access to the UN. And finally, there is accreditation to conferences and other one-time events, which can permit considerable participation and lobbying in informal sessions, but of course does not allow a continuing relationship with the UN.
Conference accreditation must be obtained separately for each event, usually from the conference secretariat. It tends to be easier to obtain than the full accreditation, but still requires submission of forms and documents describing the organization and its work. The criteria and rights vary substantially from one conference to another, but rights have tended to increase over time. At the international conferences, NGOs have actively lobbied government delegates, but NGOs have also been very involved in their own "parallel" conferences, called the "NGO Forums", which feature booths, main events, and hundreds of workshops.
The formal statuses accord very different rights to NGOs, but in practice active NGOs with lower status can gain greater access than less active NGOs with higher status. Getting accreditation can take lots of time and can be subject to blockage by member states who dislike the work of a particular NGO. But the rules are somewhat flexible and effective NGOs can find many opportunities to be heard.
Updated by Aline Baillat (December 2000)
MA
WoooooooHoooooooooooo
awesome
hawk
p.s. - "waiting" I remembered the os this time
General Assembly Resolution 13( I ). Organization of the Secretariat
(The DPI)
( http://www.un.org/partners/civil_society/docs/res13-1.htm
II. INFORMATION
The United Nations cannot achieve its purposes unless the peoples of the world are fully informed of its aims and activities.
The recommendations of the Technical Advisory Committee on Information submitted by the Preparatory Commission to the General Assembly constitute a sound foundation for the public information policy and activities of the United Nations.
Therefore the General Assembly :
5. Approves the recommendations of the Technical Advisory Committee on Information contained in annex I and transmits them to the Secretary-General for his information and consideration.
ANNEX I
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON INFORMATION CONCERNING THE POLICIES, FUNCTIONS AND ORGANIZATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION.
The United Nations cannot achieve the purposes for which it has been created unless the peoples of the world are fully informed of its aims and activities.
Therefore
the Technical Advisory Committee on Information makes the following recommendations :
1. A Department of Public Information should be established under an Assistant Secretary-General.
2. The activities of the Department of Public Information should be so organized and directed as to promote to the greatest possible extent an informed understanding of the work and purposes of the United Nations among the peoples of the world. To this end the Department should primarily assist and rely upon the co-operation of the established governmental and non-governmental agencies of information to provide the public with information about the United Nations. The Department of Public Information should not engage in "propaganda". It should on its own initiative engage in positive informational activities that will supplement the services of existing agencies of information to the extent that these are insufficient to realize the purpose set forth above.
3. The United Nations should establish as a general policy that the press and other existing agencies of information be given the fullest possible direct access to the activities and official documentation of the Organization. The rules of procedure of the various organs of the United Nations should be applied with this end in view.
4. Subject to the general authority of the principal organs of the United Nations, responsibility for the formulation and execution of information policy should be vested in the Secretary-General in charge of the Department of Public Information.
5. When negotiating an agreement with a specialized agency the Economic and SOcial Council should be requested to take into consideration the matter of co-ordinated information services and of a common information policy, and to consult with the Secretary-General concerning each individual agreement.
6. In order to ensure that peoples in all parts of the world receive as full information as possible about the United Nations, the Department of Pubic Information should consider the establishment of branch offices at the earliest practicable date.
7. The functions of the Department of Public Information appear to fall naturally into the following categories : press, publications, radio, films, graphics and exhibitions, public liaison and reference.
8. The Department should provide all the services for the daily, weekly and periodical press, both at the headquarters of the United Nations and through its branch offices, that may be required to ensure that the press is supplied with full information about the activities of the United Nations.
9. The Department should prepare and publish pamphlets and other publications on the aims and activities of the United Nations, within the limits of the criteria set forth in recommendation 2.
10. The Department should actively assist and encourage the use of radio broadcasting for the dissemination of information about the United Nations. To this end it should, in the first instance, work in close cooperation with radio broadcasting organization of the Members. The United Nations should also have its own radio broadcasting station or stations with the necessary wavelengths, both for communications with Members and with branch offices, and for the origination of United Nations programmes. The station might also be used as a centre for national broadcasting systems which desire to co-operate in the international field. The scope of the radio broadcasting activities of the United Nations should be determined after consultation with national radio broadcasting organizations.
11. In addition to assisting the newsreel and photographic press agencies, the Department of Public Information should also promote and where necessary participate in the production and non-commercial distribution of documentary films, film strips, posters and other graphic exhibits on the work of the United Nations.
12. The Department and its branch offices should actively encourage national information services, educational institutions and other governmental and non-governmental organizations of all kinds interested in spreading information about the United Nations. For this and other purposes it should operate a fully equipped reference service, brief or supply lecturers, and make available its publications, documentary films, film strips, poster and other exhibits for use by these agencies and organizations.
13. The Department and its branch offices should also be equipped to analyse trends of opinion throughout the world about the activities of the United Nations and the extent to which an informed understanding of the work of the United Nations is being secured.
14. Consideration should be given to the setting up of an Advisory Committee to meet periodically at the seat of the United Nations to discuss and forward to the Secretary-General observations regarding the information policy and programme of the United Nations. This Advisory Committee would be composed of experts appointed on the basis of broad geographical representation, personal qualification and experience. They would be representative of the various media of information of the Members, and would be in a position to reflect to the Secretary-General the needs and desires of the general public of the Members in the matter of public information about the aims and activities of the United Nations.
15. In order that the Advisory Committee may be as widely representative as possible and receive the maximum support from the information organizations of all the Members, the Secretary-General might, in consultation with the governments of the Members, communicate with the representative officers of the leading organizations of the press, radio, film and other media and government information services of the Members on the establishment of such an Advisory Committee.
16. If it is found possible to set up an Advisory committee, then at a later stage consideration should be given to establishing similarly composed national or regional advisory committees working in touch with the branches of the Department of Public Information.
Here is a similar "Workshop" Notice which not only uses the term "PARTNER", but also "PARTNERSHIP".
It also provides us with the info that the UN also provides "Grants" to NGOs. However, please restrain any conclusions about such to the WTS until evidence of such might be discovered.
DPI/NGO Communications WorkshopsRegistration Form for Workshop No.1
Programme for Workshop No. 1
The NGO Section of the Department of Public Information (DPI), in cooperation with the NGO/DPI Executive Committee, is pleased to announce a series of day-long DPI/NGO Communications Workshops beginning on 2 December 1999. The Workshops aim to strengthen cooperation between NGOs and the United Nations in creating an informed understanding of the work of the Organization, and to explore new means of communications to advance the common agenda of the UN and its NGO partners. Interested NGOs that are currently associated with the Department, or have consultative status with the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) are invited to assign one representative involved in communications, fund raising or training within their organization to attend each workshop.
Workshop topics will include:* Funding Partnerships at the UN This workshop will provide professional guidance on finding grants for your programmes, understanding the United Nations funding process, and learning the fundamentals of grant writing.
* Newsletter Publishing
This workshop will provide advice on effective ways to include United Nations information in your newsletters and outreach materials.* Creating an Effective Web Site This workshop will demonstrate ways to effectively use your web site as a publishing and publicity tool.
* Video and Teleconferencing
In this workshop participants will learn how to use modern technologies for interacting with members of your organization, other NGOs and the UN system.The first workshop, Funding Partnerships at the UN, will take place on 2 December 1999 at UN Headquarters in Conference room 8, from 9:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. During the morning session, from 9:30 a.m. to 1:00 p.m., UN system partners will share their specialized knowledge of diverse funding opportunities within the Organization. In the afternoon, from 2:00 p.m. to 5:30 p.m., Dr. Michael Gershowitz, an authority on the grant system in the USA, will conduct a hands-on workshop, Fundamentals of Grant Writing, providing advice on winning grants from both government and private-sector sources.
Registration forms are available from the NGO Resource Centre Room L-1B-31, or may be obtained by calling (212) 963-7233/7234 or from this web site. Please make sure that you have a valid UN pass. If not, please make arrangements by calling the above-mentioned numbers. If you are unable to obtain your pass ahead of time, please indicate this on the attached registration form and a pass will be ready for you to pick up at the Pass and Identification Unit, 801 First Ave. (corner 45th Street).
We look forward to having you join us in this special effort to strengthen cooperation with our NGO partners.
Paul Hoeffel
Chief, NGO Section
Department of Public InformationRichard A. Zeif
Communications Workshop Coordinator
NGO/DPI Executive Committee
EDIT TO ADD LINK TO ALL WORKSHOP NOTICES:
. http://www.un.org/MoreInfo/ngolink/wshome.htm
