Not a reinstatement story but Lee your treatment by an elder sort of reminded me of a time when I went to meet for field service and an elder asked me to work with a "brother" who had literally just had an affair with my wife. I was caught of guard and actually went door to door with him. Pretty stupid thing of an elder to do to someone but also pretty stupid thing for me to do, should have told them both to get lost.
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Treatment of Those Trying For Reinstatement
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat happens when a jehovah’s witness who has been disfellowshipped returns to attending the meetings again?.
mark jones writes:.
if it's the same congregation that they previously attended then, yes, the congregation will remember who they are and so continue to treat them as dead or invisible.. one of the identifying marks a cult is that it uses shame and humiliation to control members, to keep them from leaving and manipulating those who escaped into coming back.. a disfellowshipped person is never allowed to quietly leave with dignity.
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Moral responsibility.
by nicolaou inno subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
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I am totally baffled by the excuses people make for God.
His timescales make no sense whatsoever. His lack of action makes no sense, his blaming everyone else except himself makes no sense (he created everything there is no one else to blame)
Saying that he is on a different moral plane to us, whatever that means, then he can’t hold us accountable for our actions.
Saying he has a plan that we don’t know, then he should tell us that plan clearly not with some cryptic book that is open to interpretation and then remain totally silent for thousands of years.
The original post said would you do anything if a child was about to fall on the track. Its much worse than that would you do something if the children you claim to be the father to, every single one of them was about to die. Would you keep promising them that you would let no harm come to them, that you loved them and you wanted everyone to be saved and then just sit there and do literally nothing.
The actions need to match the words.
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Is 1914 still a major belief in JW land ? Or has it been abandoned ?
by smiddy3 ini just wonder about this topic as it is now 109 years since that date and what was expected to take place has never happened ..
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Blues Brother you mentioned the times, times and half a time.
There was an article in the Mirror newspaper recently where Isaac Newton predicted the end of the world, and then Christ would return and reign for a millennium., using the same methodology.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/isaac-newtons-eerie-1704-doomsday-29771572He predicted that in 1750.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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Nephilim...Only desired females
by RULES & REGULATIONS inbible questions answered.
who were the nephilim?.
the bible account says that “the sons of the true god began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful.” (genesis 6:2) those ‘sons of god’ were actually spirit creatures who rebelled against god when they “forsook their own proper dwelling place” in heaven, materialized human bodies, and “began taking as wives all whom they chose.”—jude 6; genesis 6:2.. the hybrids born from this unnatural union were no ordinary children.
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How could angels procreate? Never made sense to me that they could become a human and have the ability to father children. Surely that makes them akin to a creator. Their DNA is presumably non existent and if it existed would be nothing like a humans so no way could they have children. If they could then why didn't half of them become men and the other half women and then they could fill the earth with fully angel offspring rather then hybrids.
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Nephilim...Only desired females
by RULES & REGULATIONS inbible questions answered.
who were the nephilim?.
the bible account says that “the sons of the true god began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful.” (genesis 6:2) those ‘sons of god’ were actually spirit creatures who rebelled against god when they “forsook their own proper dwelling place” in heaven, materialized human bodies, and “began taking as wives all whom they chose.”—jude 6; genesis 6:2.. the hybrids born from this unnatural union were no ordinary children.
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So will the Nephilim get a resurrection?
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Freaky, unsettling, unnerving comment from Losch in his AGM talk
by FFGhost indid anybody else catch it?.
he said that people who come back in the earthly resurrection would be given a body "reasonably similar" to the one they had prior to death.. what the almighty hootch?.
"similar"?.
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I cant read their mind, but maybe it takes account of the fact that some with disfigurements may come back without them. So they will be a new improved version of what they where. So not exactly the same but similar enough for you to know that they were still them.
The whole concept has very little detail. Do they come back old and disabled or do they come back looking like they di when they were 30? Do they come back with Cancer and then it disappears slowly. Do they come back with only one leg and the other one returns in time. Are disabilities and diseases on a sliding sale where some they come back with and some they don't?
That is supposing the whole thing wasn't a load of rubbish to start with. And even if it was true they would not be coming back anyway it would just be a copy of them.
The point is even though they have made the theory up they don't really know what it means and just make wild guesses while telling the rank and file not to speculate.
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The 2020 Census of American Religion 07.08.2021
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.prri.org/research/2020-census-of-american-religion/.
more than one-third of muslims (39%), white mainline protestants (37%), buddhists (37%), and the religiously unaffiliated (36%) have at least a four-year college degree.
another 19% are catholic, 2% are latter-day saint, and less than 1% each are jehovah’s witnesses or orthodox christians.
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incognito2014
compared to the median age in the country of 47
The median age of the US is not 47 it is 38.5. So Median age of JWs is significantly higher than average.
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Lloyd Evans removing comments he does not like, just like the cult
by mickbobcat ini see posts that evans does not seem to like being removed.
i guess he is not a lot different than the control cult he left.
his rebuttal to the zoom assembly he said that dawkins made some silly comments about gender.
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incognito2014
I don’t watch all of Evans’ videos, but I haven’t seen any where he’s even mentioned JW forums let alone ‘bash’ them. It’s certainly possible that he has done so, but it definitely isn’t ‘at every opportunity’. I’m guessing you’re referring to something he said in a ‘livestream’.
projecthydra you have taken the words out of my mouth. I dont recall him doing that at all. Isn't it ironic that there are threads devoted to bashing Lloyd Evans in which he is accused of bashing this forum and others.
Personally I find his material valuable in my journey to shake the JW indoctrination off (as I did with this forum for many years in the past although I think this forum has morphed into something else now that is maybe not so ex JW focussed).
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incognito2014
Actually, in some ways it is harder than ever to leave.
Now it doesn't matter where you live or if you answer the phone or not. If you use social media they will stalk you and analyse every comment and post you make to see if it fits the required personality.