they seem to think that all they will do is enjoy a carefree life with little or no concerns problems or worries whereas nothing could be further from the truth... according to the bible.. without trying to speculate on these concerns or problems during this one thousand year reign of christ jesus ,lets hear what the bible has to say about the end of his thousand year reign.. rev.20:7-10 satan is to be let out of his prison {as if he hasn`t done enough damage in 6000 years of roaming about in the earth at the same time fraternizing with jesus and jehovah in heaven} i digress.. and the reason he is let out of prison ,lo and behold ,is to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth gog and magog to gather them together for the war.
{ here we go again ,armageddon didn`t solve anything we have to go through another one.
} 1000 years later.. now get this it`s not just some isolated little skirmish with a few hundred or even a few thousand dissenters ,as the bible states they number the sands of the seashore and they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp {not a nation but a camp} of the holy ones.and the beloved city.. with that description it would seem the holy ones are in the minority and the opposes apparently were spread over all the earth.. so that description of the bible to me about jc 1000 rule does not appear to be one of living in a paradise , that is not on the agenda until after jesus christ 1000 year reign and only if you are lucky enough to survive another test/war of your loyalty after all you have gone through previously.. i wonder if this realization is one of the reasons why so many now are claiming to be of the anointed because as one of the other sheep you have to pass another test after the 1000 years of christ jesus rule whereas of one of the anointed on death now you go straight to heaven ..
So true...they focus on the carrot— just get through the first AG and everything will be ok. I remember the final-final test was to test those who were raised from the dead who had not gone through the first AG— so now you have the privilege to go through the second. The thought was if you made it through the first one didn’t guarantee you would make it through the last one!
Also if you were real bad you would be put to death during the thousand years.
GLF
Yes it's you...IMO. Other animals are used for food like Pigs, chickens, cows, etc and I would say that most are not used in a sacrificial ritual then sold to the masses for food! Let's not forget fish used for "Good Friday".
good evening,.
i am in search of recent articles in the watchtower, or in other articles that are available on jw.org, that explain that one has to be part of the organisation as a condition for salvation.. i can only find articles on sites other than jw.org that are from before the year 2000. .
it is for discussions with a jw, so i can only use things from jw.org.. thanks in advance.
Marked. Good info!
i've been watching quite a bit of gb member stephen lett on youtube recently (no, i'm not thinking of going back to the jws).. i just find him compulsive viewing, like when people slow down to see a car crash.
i find his facial expressions and intonation spell-binding.. it reminds me a bit of john carpenter's the thing, a film where an alien life-form infects a host and imitates it, spreading throughout camps of remote workers in the antarctic.
if i were a bethelite living in close proximity to lett, i'd be thinking about giving him the blood test to see if he was normal, lol.. why does lett speak in public the way he does?
I don't think aliens look like him. So no!
Now I base my reply on what I think I know...what I can relate it to.
I could be wrong...so I may change my reply with more evidence.
obviously, trump doesn't.
but do you?
do you think that they are generally fair, unbiased and honest?.
Absolutely no...I don't Believe what they report, at first! Remember WMD. WEPONDS OF MASS DESTRUCTION?... they reported this as a fact, but it was not. So who's controls the main media outlets? Is it those who want to shape your view?..so they can justify their reaction to it, and the governments response?
That was one example of false accusations against a nation!
So the question is why would you!...why would you trust main news stations for accurate news?
Their track record for the truth is?...very misleading! And self serving.
Like it's been said "fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on me!"
excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .
bible translations www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible .
wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).
Make our own intelligent choices? Only from information from the bible; but ordinary jws are told they cannot understand the bible without help from the GB and WTS publications, how is that free will
Free will defined - MAKING YOUR CHOISES ON WHAT GOD-GB SAYS ARE ACCEPTABLE!
That sounds like forced free will!
If using my "free will" means you kill me for not agreeing with you...don't you dare tell me I still had the freedom of free will.
If I had equal power and could not have my life taken or ruined, then I would have free will to make any decision I felt was right for me!
THANKS BLONDIE FOR THE RECAP
does forcing people to shun other people violate free will?
Only when you are not in control of your own mind...BITE bring any memories back? Your Behavior, Information, Thoughts, and Emotions are controlled by the org!
Its easier to blame 'you' then those in control of you!
i have some tricks to play.
i know it may sound childish but i feel that creating havoc and forcing the memorial to be postponed will be the highlight of the night!
wish me luck!.
Show me the scripture that says "go out and invite non believers to observe this event"!
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or non partakers
in genesis ch.1&2 god warns adam that if he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and bad he would die .theire was nothing said about anything else.. you would expect humans would just die of old age like adam and eve did.. the wages of sin is death the bible tells us .so if he disobeyed jehovah god he knew he would die .. what he never knew and neither did any other human to come after him was just how many ways death would come to humans.. death by creatures that were created by god venomous creatures ,snakes spiders etc.,marine creatures sharks etc., bacteria /viruses etc.,insect carrying diseases such as the mosquito that causes thousands of deaths to children under 5 years old even today with malaria.,wild animals etc,.leprosy that even existed under theocratic rule in the nation of israel.. then their is the indignties humans go through in old age ,loss of bodily functions , mental capacity ,alzheimers ,neurological diseases that effect young and old.that reduce people to almost live not much better than a vegetable .
natural disasters not to be excluded because these are in the control of god to afflict mankind or not.. the list of afflictions that humans have to suffer through before they die , from a loving god just boggles my mind.. and i have only scratched the surface of indignities humans have faced before they die.. so i ask the question is god jehovah guilty of the sin of omission ?
or did he act out of vengeance for their disobedience and wanted to inflict greater punishment upon them.for disobeying him.. what are your thoughts ?.
"God warns Adam that if he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and bad he would die ."
So Adam knew what death was?My thoughts: Prior to sinning, Adam and Eve would have had to FIRST chose to not believe God.So we have two infants Adam and Eve ( pawns in the game of life and death god made up) who after being presented with evidence (?) from this powerful angel that transformed in to a tree creature...used the power of persuasion, to convince Eve that she was not being told the whole truth. Seem to me she FIRST based her decision on the more believable information presented?! Not arbitrarily choosing not to believe God!
below is a paste of the front of my recent essay.
ask most jws today and they'll tell you that, yes, watchtower has made a few mistakes -- that there are a couple date failures -- 1925 -- and maybe another one they can't even remember.. lest they forget, the following should jog their collective memories as to how egregious watchtower has been in their obsession with date predictions (oh, but we don't make predictions, they may tell you) over the 138 years of watchtower history.. len miller.
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Great work...I'll add it to my files . THANKS
