Yay to all Aussies.
We all love a happy holiday here in Oz. I did, Lamb loin chops and a S.A. Coopers Sparkling Ale.
And a special hello to all Melbourne'ites.
jtg
Yay to all Aussies.
We all love a happy holiday here in Oz. I did, Lamb loin chops and a S.A. Coopers Sparkling Ale.
And a special hello to all Melbourne'ites.
jtg
https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-ism_2_video.
interesting video explaining how to end a bible study.. watch the kind of uber behaviour of the witnesses: make a choice or we leave.... so hard, so not christian.
no love for the person.. g..
That's correct zeb....... six month bullshit study then sack em if they didn't commit to baptism.
jtg
poster westiewilly quoted on another thread the biblical proverb “expectation lost is sickness to the heart”.
the kjv puts it well, “hope deferred makes the heart sick but a longing fulfilled is a tree of life”.. does this not encapsulate the emotional tone of the jw organization today; “heartsick”?.
those who saw the total failure of the watchtower promises of the twentieth century must be heartsick from the disappointment.
Well smiddy3.
From my perspective they are now pushing "serve to the end" "even if that means the end of our lives"
They are moving away from the "paradise at hand" bullshit they spruiked in our younger days.
jtg
i attended a circuit arsesemblancey today.
melbourne, melton arsembley hall.
western suburbs area.. 1. re hearing negative reports in the media about jws.
Hi all,
I attended a circuit arsesemblancey today. Melbourne, Melton arsembley hall. Western suburbs area.
1. Re hearing negative reports in the media about jws. the classic first excuse offered was, " would you entertain a negative report about your spouse?" You love your spouse so you know it's wrong". "Then we must remember that jehovah is backing his people and if there is anything to correct jehovah will fix it in his own time". "So if stories like these are affecting us here are two scriptures to help us,,, Ps 94:19,,, Phil 4:6,7".
There's a lot of other refuse I could share but I want all and sundries to have a rest full evening.
Financials......."After our last convention we had a surplus of $11,663.95 so in accord of the equalizing of blah blah blah, we have forwarded the sum of $10,708.45 to the world wide work and the branch sent us a lovely letter thanking us for the contribution". " this left us a balance of $1,107.33". " Our expenses for this convention are $7,741.04 leaving us a net debt of $4,449.45 for this convention. we are deeply thankful of the generosity that you will show".
Yes,average attendees of 1.500. Seems they are charging at around six bucks per head.
Wake up Ausralia,,,, all the cash iz going to the u.s.,,,,,,,,,,
Enjoy all and questioning lurkers. Once you see the light you realise it ain't holy spirit its the gleam of money greedily attained.
Oh, 1500 attendees, 14 baptised and 5 were under 15yo born ins
jtg
as the title states there is a ...problem.
allow me to explain.. i'll start with a letter from the president of the wtbs inc in 1974.
*** yb74 254-6 is your faith dead or alive?
Well BethSarim Is My Name, I have a friend here in Australia with a strikingly similar experience. What ever got you outta there is your saviour be it emotional strength or simply resolve to do better or human endeavour. Call it what you will. Some do call it jesus, allah, yahweh, etal. Importantly, you need a trusted friend. Whomsoever that may be.
I'm happy to hear you have torn away from the jw falsity. Your evaluation of elder qualifications is right on the money,,,,,,brain dead comes to mind.
Well done. Enjoy your life and persue all of your visions of happiness.
jtg
i can now say that i'm not alone to know ttatt in my congregation, after all.. i have come to know that my close friend is awake, even without me sharing the ttatt with him/her.
on one of our recent conversations i mentioned about being tired and no longer being uplifted anymore, and my friend then told me he/she was feeling the same.
i don't know how it happened but we knew we could trust each other.
Here here john.prestor.
I have found three where I am and it makes a world of difference, especially with your own state of mind and seeing a brighter future over the jw dung hill.
jtg
p.s. Yes ohnightdevine I'm there with you......other side of the planet but nonetheless parallel. keep up the good work, it is worth it.
in my ten years as a witness i never read the whole bible end to end, what with four magazines a month, the book study, meetings and talk preparations, there just wasn’t the time.
i knew all the important references to ‘prove’ the various jw doctrines, and the cherry picked chapters that help foster the idea that it’s a good book, but that’s not reading it.
well after nearly forty years out, i decided i would do it.
My point exactly smiddy3.
It's all up for grabs, depending on the power the power mongers want to exert upon their respective congregants.
And what the supposedly 'holy spirit inspired' self appointed guardians of doctrine choose to use to control the gullible to facilitate their coersive ideals.
jtg
in my ten years as a witness i never read the whole bible end to end, what with four magazines a month, the book study, meetings and talk preparations, there just wasn’t the time.
i knew all the important references to ‘prove’ the various jw doctrines, and the cherry picked chapters that help foster the idea that it’s a good book, but that’s not reading it.
well after nearly forty years out, i decided i would do it.
"Why would a perfect woman who had been clued in about the animals that her perfect husband had named observing their characteristics, talk to a snake"
Right on the money Blondie. As I returned (my mistake but I'm working on it) I decided to read it contextually from cover to cover. That instance was my first light bulb moment and then I applied critical thinking to the rest of it and was astounded at the various possible translations of the lost language. Comparing various translations is invaluable to uncovering the deceit of the wbts and most likely others trying to push their wheelbarrow of reasoning. Likely then, the credibility of Christianity in general is up for questioning too.
And thank you for all the most informative posts that you provided over the years and for the time I have been here.
jtg
switzerland : "viens donald !
" (come donald).
usa : "pas l'temps !!
Yep, you nailed it LoveUniHateExams. Exzackery!!!!!!!!!
jtg
kiss.
steve miller band (abracadabra).
eagles.
Not forgetting Queens ' Another one bites the dust' when played backwards resembled the words 'decide to smoke marijuana' Sadly burnt a lot of classic vinyls that stoopid year.
jtg