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  What percentage of elders are single at the time of appointment?

  by NeverKnew in

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  there are 4 single men who are serving as ms. all are tripping over themselves for attenttion.

  do they have to marry off a ministerial servant before taking him to the next level?.

  and what percentage of elders are married?

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  fastJehu

  In our KH we have 9 Elders - all married; an 3 MS - all single.

  To much (porneia) problems with single Elders??? :-)
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  A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

  by TTATTelder in

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  2. beliefs

  the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

  you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

  well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

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  *** jv chap. 21 p. 340 How Is It All Financed? ***
  “Seats Free. No Collections”
  As early as the second issue of the Watch Tower, in August 1879, Brother Russell stated: “‘Zion’s Watch Tower’ has, we believe, JEHOVAH for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support. When He who says: ‘All the gold and silver of the mountains are mine,’ fails to provide necessary funds, we will understand it to be time to suspend the publication.” Consistent with that, there is no begging for money in the literature of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
  What is true of their literature is also true of their meetings. There are no emotional appeals for funds in their congregations or at their conventions. No collection plates are passed; no envelopes in which to put money are distributed; no letters of solicitation are sent to congregation members.
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  Quotes from the Watchtower that you agree with 100%

  by nicolaou in

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  just curious.

  add your quotes with no commentary if you like, it should be obvious why you agree.. the dangers of being deceivedthe really sad fact is that very often the person who is deceived or deluded tends to hold on to his belief in spite of strong evidence proving otherwise.

  perhaps he gets so emotionally attached to his belief that he simply shuts his eyes and closes his ears to any evidence that might challenge it.. the watchtower, 01/09/ 2010 p10/11.

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  WT 14 2/15 page 24 par. 15

  http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2014126

  When we meet individuals who are steeped in false religion or who follow unscriptural customs, we continue to manifest a friendly, peaceful attitude.
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  My Elderette is returning today to CONDUCT another conversation...

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  she has had 42 years of training and indoctrination.

  i'm feeling sort of nervous, but also looking forward to it.

  this will be our second scheduled session together, and we never did agree on a topic.. i'm assuming she will come with an agenda and another prepared presentation.

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  I found it ironic, when we read about Paul instructing the Bereans to examine the teachings of their leaders... then she proceeded to try and "teach" me something that wasn't actually documented in the bible. (Jesus using God's personal name).

  If a person is a JW, then it is not allowed to proof like the Bereans. The line of reasoning:

  "Bereans checked the scriptures to verify what Paul was saying, not to challenge him".

  *** w81 2/15 pp. 18-19 Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible? ***
  A NOBLE-MINDED VIEW
  How shall we view the spiritual food provided by this “faithful and discreet slave”? Should it be viewed critically—‘Oh, well, it might be true but then again it might not be and so we have to scrutinize it very critically’? Some apparently have felt that way about it. To support their way of thinking they have quoted Acts 17:11, which says of newly interested persons at Beroea: “Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.”
  But does this mean that those Beroeans were looking for flaws in the message they were hearing, or that their attitude was one of doubting? Does this set a precedent for regarding critically the publications brought forth by the “faithful and discreet slave,” with a view to finding fault? Not at all!
  First of all, let us note the setting of the statement about the noble-minded Beroeans. Paul, accompanied by Silas, was on his second missionary tour. Due to persecution that arose, the brothers at Thessalonica sent them on to Beroea. In Beroea they met sincere Jews who had strong faith in God’s Word. These were not Christians yet. They were simply interested persons who had to satisfy themselves that what Paul was telling them had the support of the Hebrew Scriptures.
  Up to this time, these devout Jews in Beroea may never have heard of Jesus Christ. What Paul was telling them was entirely new. So those noble-minded Jews in Beroea searched the Scriptures daily to make certain that the references that Paul gave were really part of God’s Word. And with what mental attitude did they pursue their studies? With a skeptical attitude, trying to prove Paul wrong? No, they were altogether unlike Paul’s critics on Mars Hill, for we read that they heard Paul’s testimony with “the greatest eagerness of mind.”—Acts 17:11, 32.
  These Beroeans listened with a readiness, yes, an eagerness, to believe. Thus not only were they open-minded, but they were wanting to have this “good news” proved true. In fact, for a person to acquire faith he must have “the will to believe.” If he is determined not to believe, then no amount of evidence will convince him; for if a person looks for them he can always find excuses, plausible reasons for not accepting the accountability that belief will bring upon him. As the apostle Paul well said: “Faith is not a possession of all people.” (2 Thess. 3:2) But the Beroeans had the will to believe. They considered what they heard with a receptive frame of mind. As a result, “many of them became believers, and so did not a few of the reputable Greek women and of the men.”—Acts 17:12.
  Jesus’ disciples wrote many letters to Christian congregations, to persons who were already in “the way of the truth.” (2 Pet. 2:2) But nowhere do we read that those brothers first, in a skeptical frame of mind, checked the Scriptures to make certain that those letters had Scriptural backing, that the writers really knew what they were talking about.

  OUR VIEW OF THE “SLAVE”
  We can benefit from this consideration. If we have once established what instrument God is using as his “slave” to dispense spiritual food to his people, surely Jehovah is not pleased if we receive that food as though it might contain something harmful. We should have confidence in the channel God is using. At the Brooklyn headquarters from which the Bible publications of Jehovah’s Witnesses emanate there are more mature Christian elders, both of the “remnant” and of the “other sheep,” than anywhere else upon earth.
  True, the brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers. (2 Tim. 3:16) And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:18) However, this has resulted in a continual refining of the body of Bible-based truth to which Jehovah’s Witnesses subscribe. Over the years, as adjustments have been made to that body of truth, it has become ever more wonderful and applicable to our lives in these “last days.” Bible commentators of Christendom are not inspired either. Despite their claims to great knowledge, they have failed to highlight even basic Bible truths—such as the coming Paradise earth, the importance of God’s name, and the condition of the dead.
  Rather, the record that the “faithful and discreet slave” organization has made for the past more than 100 years forces us to the conclusion that Peter expressed when Jesus asked if his apostles also wanted to leave him, namely, “Whom shall we go away to?” (John 6:66-69) No question about it. We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the “faithful and discreet slave” organization.

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  Someone else here wrote about this:

  .... the Bereans checked the scriptures to verify what Paul was saying, not to challenge him. That doesn't make sense. If they started out with a bias to believe Paul and didn't examine things critically, in what sense did they check things out at all? Did they just look at a couple of isolated prooftexts cited by Paul, or did they search the scriptures thoroughly? Besides, according to the WTS, no one can understand the scriptures without the GB's explanations, so in the WT view wasn't it useless and evidence of pride for the Bereans to examine the scriptures to see if Paul was right or wrong? Does the GB want JWs to do what the Bereans did and check out everything they say by the scriptures? Or do they want JWs to meekly accept whatever comes from "the slave"? To top it off, the only "message" they had to verify was the messianic prophecies concerning Jesus. It had nothing to do with looking for an organization. Once they verified that, they could accept the simple message. (Proverbs 14:15) 15 Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps.
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  BOE april 25

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  does someone have the boe april 25 letter about the transfer of the local ownership of all kingdom halls to the society?.

  it seems a mayor financial transaction, allthough here in the netherlands.. gorby.

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  fastJehu

  For germany:

  the official website www.jehovaszeugen.de has this PDF:

  http://www.jehovaszeugen.de/uploads/media/Amtsblatt_2013_Nr__2.pdf

  It shows all KHs (page 3 ...) who MUST transfered to "Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts Jehovas Zeugen in Deutschland".

  Here you can see the "Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts Jehovas Zeugen in Deutschland" in Berlin:

  http://www.jehovaszeugen.de/Jehovas-Zeugen-in-Deutschland.6.0.html

  So in germany this was done with a "church law" from the "Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts Jehovas Zeugen in Deutschland".

  Maybe in Netherland it is simular and no BOE-letter was necessary.
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  Anyone have the answer sheet for the TMS Review this week?

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just wondering.. my wife will be very impressed by "apostate power" if you can come through with this.

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  Is it possible to have the answer sheet for June also?
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  Doors Open in Central-European-Branch (Selters Germany)

  by fastJehu in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  23 - 25 th of may 2014 the german branch in selters celebrate.

  "30 years bethel selters"..

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  fastJehu

  23 - 25 th of May 2014 the german branch in Selters celebrate

  "30 years bethel Selters".
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  How I Ended Up On JWN...

  by Divergent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is the story of how i ended up here on this site.... .

  i was stuck in a situation where reaching out took forever, an eternity.

  it was ridiculous - no matter what i did, there was always more to do.

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  Injustice - you see the MS and Elders around and there qualities. You compare to your qualities - injustice.

  My story is very simluar. I am like the monkey on the left side:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd6_HJQOV1I
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  Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello, you read it here first!.

  governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  to all congregations.

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  .... In accord with this Scriptural precedent,....

  only with prayer and with fasting
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  Recent changes

  by Thumblina in

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  i was on this board a lot when i faded and left 6 years ago but not been on much since.

  is there any thread/s in particular to read showing the changes in the past 5 years?

  or any kind willing person who has time to summarise them as a reply below??

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  fastJehu

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