Posts by EverApostate

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What Jonah story really teaches

by venus in

jonah account as given in the bible proves the account is illogical, hence written by thoughtless human writer because:.

1) god is shown to be forcing jonah against his will.

(god would not go against the free-will of his children because history shows: he doesn’t punish atheists nor does he do any favors to theists).

EverApostate

The Hindu Holy Book Ramayana specifies that Hanuman (Monkey god) plucked out a mountain and flew with it.

A real competition for Jonah's story.

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Adam and the Dinosaurs

by The Real Edward Gentry in

jw
friends

here is a fascinating subject.

according to the bible , one of adam's first assignments was to name all the animals including the sea creatures and dinosaurs of course.

we don't know how long this took but, as all witnesses know, the time period is crucial in working out the timing of armageddon).

If Dinosaurs really lived during Adam's time, wow, Adam had quite a work to do classify and name them: A few mentioned below. But these poor species were later destroyed by BigJ's fury or boredom or uncontrollable anger, which the Bible never specifies. Purposeful god indeed

Melanorosaurus, Antetonitrus , Vulcanodon , Spinophorosaur, Eusauropoda , Shunosaurus , Patagosaurus , Mamenchisaurid,Omeisaurus , Mamenchisaurus, Cetiosaurus , Jobaria , Neosauropoda, Haplocanthosau, Diplodocoidea, Rebbachisaurid, Limaysaurus , Dicraeosaurida, Amargasaurus , Diplodocidae , Barosaurus , Macronaria , Camarasaurus , Titanosaurifor, Phuwiangosauru, Titanosauria , Malawisaurus , Rapetosaurus , Isisaurus , Saltasaurus

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Is it really possible to disprove the Watchtower?

by Coded Logic in

dear brothers and sisters,.

considering the end is so near at hand we thought it important for to reiterate that it's absolutely impossible to prove god's "one true organisation" wrong.

there is nothing on heaven or earth that could ever be shown to be false or incorrect in our entire .

EverApostate

Is it really possible to disprove the Watchtower?

Yes, It is possible to Disprove that the WT is God's Organization, to people with an open mind and who respects truth.

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Biblical incidents that bothered me.

by EverApostate in

i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.

these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.

perhaps this led to my awakening.

EverApostate

Yes, Lot is certified "Righteous" in the new testament, after what all he did.

Job's multitude of servants get killed too, due to the bet.

And Big/Small J hurl down the devil to earth, after their great battle, as if there is little trouble here. Cant confine the devils to any farthest galaxies ? What a loving arrangement !

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Is All The Bad Publicity About The Watchtower Pedophile Lawsuits Causing Contributions To Nose Dive Worldwide?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think with all the child molestation lawsuits the watchtower corporation is and has been hit with is the main reason for all the prime property sell off recently.

the silent lambs protest back in 2001, and the dateline prime time expose probably was the death knell for the watchtower's hey day in brooklyn.. their membership is drying up, young people are leaving in droves, the situation is no doubt far worse than the annually published yearbook figures show and so they ceased it's publication permanently.

and those left remaining are experiencing a huge grab of money from their congregations accounts and now are required to make pledges about how much they can contribute which i think is a last ditch effort by the governing body to squeeze more money out of the rank and file watchtower indoctrinated drones.. i think all this is happening because even those still loyally attending are hearing reports of these tremendous pay out that the watchtower is making to the victims of their self serving policies that put young ones at great risks so that even the rank and file don't want to contribute to pay court costs and so are withholding giving contributions to a very great extent.

EverApostate

Hardly a few JWs know about the Lawsuits. Even if we bring it up to them, they refuse to believe and even if they come across such news, they take it as "Jah will handle this"

WT downfall is our wishful thinking. But I don't think it will happen any soon.

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Casting Out DEMONS

by Cold Steel in

if someone believes they're being plagued with demons or they have problems with hauntings, things moving by themselves or hearing voices or footsteps, who they gonna call?

i know they take demons very seriously, so who in the congregation do they go to when they need to bring out the big guns?

do they try to handle it themselves or is this a job for the elders?

EverApostate

I heard from a JW sister that her unbelieving relative had bought her a piece of clothing from a christian charity and her dog was continuously barking. Once she got rid of it, it stopped barking. Very amusing to recollect that now.

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Casting Out DEMONS

by Cold Steel in

if someone believes they're being plagued with demons or they have problems with hauntings, things moving by themselves or hearing voices or footsteps, who they gonna call?

i know they take demons very seriously, so who in the congregation do they go to when they need to bring out the big guns?

do they try to handle it themselves or is this a job for the elders?

EverApostate

I have not seen anyone reporting to elders about demon possessed persons. This whole demon casting is a misunderstanding or ignorance of mental or health Issues during ancient times.

Of course the WT advises its flock not to buy anything from Church Garage sales, to avoid demons, which is bronze age stupidity

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Jehovah uses the government to discipline his people

by StephaneLaliberte in

i had a conversation with my dad concerning the legal cases the jws are loosing and how their policies are still lacking.

he answered that he has confidence that jehovah will give his people the wisdom and discernment necessary to make the changes.

i then explained that most of the improvements were made as a result of various court cases, including the australian commission.. my dad: well, than, jehovah uses the governments to discipline his people just like he did with the jews.

EverApostate

Jehovah uses the Governments of Singapore, North Korea and Saudi Arabia to ban his kingdom work in those countries ?

Seems the Great GB only could discern that

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Was It Really Mental Illness or Was It The Demons?

by minimus in

jw
friends

we supposedly had more than a few “demonized” people in our congregation.

they would hear voices or feel internal punishment within their souls.

the answer was always—-these people were affected by the demons and they needed counseling!.

EverApostate

Jesus cast out 7 demons out of his Close Associate Mary Magdalene.

Mark 16:9 "...he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils

Hence watch out and even count how many there are. May be useful to log in Field Service report

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Biblical incidents that bothered me.

by EverApostate in

i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.

these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.

perhaps this led to my awakening.

EverApostate

Stillin
How dare you criticize God!

I am criticizing a fictional imagination that was created by ancient middle east tribes, which I too believed to be true once.

His wisdom is far surpassing to ours, so we should just keep our opinions to ourselves.

Yes, I can see God's wisdom that allowed a snake to talk and deceive the whole of mankind with so much of sufferings.

God's Wisdom is manifested by the terrible Earthquakes(Even one today), destructive tsunamis, Hurricanes, Floods, Landslides, volcanic eruptions, meteorite strikes... Do they