This "Convert or die" threat is not Unique to WT or Bible. Even other religions threaten with hell fire or even worse punishment, if not obliging.
Religions are a Joke, for the thinking people.
it was the paragraph talking about people who don't want to be j.w's being executed, and it being an act of compassion from jehovah towards his witnesses..
This "Convert or die" threat is not Unique to WT or Bible. Even other religions threaten with hell fire or even worse punishment, if not obliging.
Religions are a Joke, for the thinking people.
i happen to be cruising around the net and stumbled upon this question on a different forum.
how do jw's answer jesus words in john 6:54 today?.
"whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and i will raise them up at the last day.
John 6: 54 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day; 55 for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. 56 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. It is not as when your forefathers ate and yet died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”
As per the above Jesus's Supposed Sayings, no one gets Eternal life unless they eat Jesus flesh and drink his blood. Clear cut. No Excuses for anyone who professes to be a Christian. WT does a whole bunch of Biblical gymnastics to make believe that this is for 144K
Another dimension to this is Symbolic Cannibalism, which is disgusting.
one of my jw sons seems to be putting pressure on his non-jw brother apparently to scare him into accepting the troof and start coming to meetings.
wild statements like our topic title, which i know are not supported at jw dot org, have been made to my non-jw son several times over the past year or so.
while i haven't been privy to the actual phone conversations i tend to believe that the jw son is being pressured by the local elders to cut ties with the non-jw since their conversations seem to degrade into arguments -- therefore tending to weaken the jws faith in wt teachings.. either my jw son is lying about what i would call rogue teachings (and this would disappoint me greatly) or he is in some close knit clique in his congregation which has secretly chosen to go rogue on certain wt issues.. based on many of the recent posts here about drastic money and wt organization problems this could be a sign of pending splits of certain congregation members.. what do you think?
I am sure that the GB will soon come with an Idea like
"Armageddon has already started invisibly and those who are spiritually deserved can only see it." (Perhaps only the GB)
new to the forum.
hope today finds everyone well.
i’m not super familiar with jw theology concerning jesus.
The Biblical Jesus would have been an Ordinary guy who might have been impaled by the Romans for rebelling.
All other miracle and supernatural stuffs are made up, IMO.
one of my jw sons seems to be putting pressure on his non-jw brother apparently to scare him into accepting the troof and start coming to meetings.
wild statements like our topic title, which i know are not supported at jw dot org, have been made to my non-jw son several times over the past year or so.
while i haven't been privy to the actual phone conversations i tend to believe that the jw son is being pressured by the local elders to cut ties with the non-jw since their conversations seem to degrade into arguments -- therefore tending to weaken the jws faith in wt teachings.. either my jw son is lying about what i would call rogue teachings (and this would disappoint me greatly) or he is in some close knit clique in his congregation which has secretly chosen to go rogue on certain wt issues.. based on many of the recent posts here about drastic money and wt organization problems this could be a sign of pending splits of certain congregation members.. what do you think?
"the preaching work is done"
or the fear mongering bullshitting is done, we will now take the money and run
Ha ha Nice one
one of my jw sons seems to be putting pressure on his non-jw brother apparently to scare him into accepting the troof and start coming to meetings.
wild statements like our topic title, which i know are not supported at jw dot org, have been made to my non-jw son several times over the past year or so.
while i haven't been privy to the actual phone conversations i tend to believe that the jw son is being pressured by the local elders to cut ties with the non-jw since their conversations seem to degrade into arguments -- therefore tending to weaken the jws faith in wt teachings.. either my jw son is lying about what i would call rogue teachings (and this would disappoint me greatly) or he is in some close knit clique in his congregation which has secretly chosen to go rogue on certain wt issues.. based on many of the recent posts here about drastic money and wt organization problems this could be a sign of pending splits of certain congregation members.. what do you think?
When I was new in the cult, a bunch of sisters in my local congregation were talking that the preaching work is finished and big A would be any moment. I was enthralled. That was in 1997.
Seems jah and his myriads of angels are really working out on the implementation.
so i was reading the book of daniel, starting with chapter 4 (nebuchadnezzar's famous tree chopping/banding dream where the 7 times is introduced) but i noticed that when you don't cherry pick verses and just read straight thru - it really seems like some children's book that was poorly written.
even though the borg says that this book as written by daniel, chapter 4 is clearly written by "king nebuchad·nezzar to all the peoples, nations, and language groups dwelling in all the earth" after the tree chopping business.
) of the rest of the chapters seem to be written in 3rd person (odd, if you are writing about your experiences).
Onager - Can you point me to the verse in the bible that commands us to boil water before drinking it?
Great Point. Why doesn't the inspired book talk about microscopic germs, at least the ones that causes deadly diseases. ?
It only talks about "all visible" serpents, pigeons, Donkeys and stuff and some fairy tale monsters. Not impressive.
the guardian has a story about a recent discovery regarding the great pyramid of gizeh.
it begins this way:.
"archaeologists have uncovered a mysterious enclosure hidden deep inside the great pyramid of giza, the oldest of the seven wonders of the ancient world.
Me Playing CT Russell:
"uncovered a mysterious enclosure" - Enclosed Bible Truth would be uncovered by WT in the last days.
"An impressive ascending corridor that connects the Queen’s chamber to the King’s in the heart of the historic monument" - Jah Connects with his people through WT, the impressive ascending Corridor to Heaven.
i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.
i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.
i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".
Congrats on talking the bold initiative Brian. You are progressing towards real happiness and freedom. Only you know your situations. Take it slow.
I was a JW and quit 8 years ago. My mom and wife are still in but no repercussions.
Others have advised here a lot, which is very valuable. Hence nothing new from me
a thought occurred to me today, that religion is just like a clever marketer or advertiser.
first , a "problem" is created, then the advertiser offers the "solution"!.
religion does the same!
Exactly!! . Religion is nothing but advertising. Especially Christianity and specifically those who go door to door. Like selling cosmetics.
At least if you buy or sell cosmetics, you get some tangible benefits!!!
Why does God need advertising? Only sloppy products do need advertising