Posts by Bosho

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given a roasting for our daughters behaviour!

by Bosho in

i'm not sure if i'm posting in the correct section but i had to put this somewhere just to let off some steam.. i have a beautiful little girl, she's just two and a half but she's tall, so she looks more like a four year old.

we live in a flat and have no access to a garden, the lady who lives underneath us is a nightworker, so we have to try and keep the noise down through the day.

which means that my poor daughter doesn't get the chance to run off steam.

Bosho

Wow!

Can I just say thanks to everyone for such encouraging comments. It helps to know I am not alone.

I'm just going to keep going as we have and ignore any comments that come our way. "You should be smacking her.. keeping her chained up..." etc etc.

I totally agree that the society needs to rethink their whole attitude to children. They expect chidren to stay in but they don't do anything active to help. The book they do have is a complete waste of time and should have a PG 13 rating on it anyway.

Thanks again everyone.

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I always disagreed with ....

by fulano in

disfellowshipping on smoking.. especially smoking a cigar from time to time does not have to be harmfull.

but i personally have disfellowshipped persons for smoking sigarettes, although i never saw a good biblical base.i mean ..how many filthy fat friends did we have, addicted to sugar, carbs, and you just knew they were going to have health-problems sooner or later.

now i smoke cigars, maybe one good cuban a day, and i am slim, active and can run 10 miles without any problems.. who had the same doubts about this dogma?

Bosho

And then there's always those people who have an underactive thyroid.

I'm not obese but neither am I twiggy. I find it very very hard to keep my weight under control, even though I take regular medication. But I have to agree with LB when he said

There are many obese people that don't have a choice about that. It can very well be a genetic trait. This has been proven.

Obesity is caused by a lot of problems besides over-eating. A low self-esteem can trigger all kinds of responses in people. It can be a vicious circle. On eof my friends lost her brother, mother, and father in the space of three years and put on four stone. She confort eats and it was the way she dealt with a terrible time of her life. It's sad, these people should be treated with kindness and civility not treated to bad jokes and offensive remarks.

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given a roasting for our daughters behaviour!

by Bosho in

i'm not sure if i'm posting in the correct section but i had to put this somewhere just to let off some steam.. i have a beautiful little girl, she's just two and a half but she's tall, so she looks more like a four year old.

we live in a flat and have no access to a garden, the lady who lives underneath us is a nightworker, so we have to try and keep the noise down through the day.

which means that my poor daughter doesn't get the chance to run off steam.

Bosho

bittersweet: thank you so much!

That was so encouraging! That's what I should be hearing at meetings not the opposite! Tells a tale really doesn't it!

Scully: Thanks! I used to just take the bible stories for her, but now I take all sorts of books and crayons etc. I won't let her have any watchtowers etc... she picked up the one that had the person badly injured on the inside front cover and it upset her.... hardly protecting our children!

This may also seem trivial, but I think the bible stories book is bit much for children that young... they get to see a man who's been clubbed to death, a woman clinging to a rock with her baby screaming with a horrible death imminent. another man robbing people and that's all in the first section. Not to mention Jesus on a stake which really freaked her out! We took the book away! I won't let her watch anything on telly etc Cbeebees, she doesn't even see adverts. She's seen worse things in the society's literature. I really think they need to update on the way they treat and educate children.

Edited by - bosho on 8 November 2002 16:32:43

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given a roasting for our daughters behaviour!

by Bosho in

i'm not sure if i'm posting in the correct section but i had to put this somewhere just to let off some steam.. i have a beautiful little girl, she's just two and a half but she's tall, so she looks more like a four year old.

we live in a flat and have no access to a garden, the lady who lives underneath us is a nightworker, so we have to try and keep the noise down through the day.

which means that my poor daughter doesn't get the chance to run off steam.

Bosho

IslandWoman: Well.... to be honest.... yes and no. If we go after her she thinks we're playing chase and goes even faster... so I tend to wait for her to pass me and then I'll caught her arm and say "Walk! Don't run!" adn ignore the blank look I get sent in return... or else i'll send the "look" her way. But neither work!

Any sugestions?

NameWithheld: You're quite correct! Fun is not an option. Even in their "so called" get-togethers which happen once in a blue moon, it's a controlled affair. I don't go any more! With our cong. your either in or your out and we're very much out!

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Ohhh - what a laugh!

by Mr Magoo in

it's been quite a while since the last time i was in here.. i don't know if any of you rememeber my story, but i'm a happy ung male atheist married to a lovely jw.... last week i attended the study group with my wife - the i-don't-know-what-he's-called-but-he's-visiting-the-study-groups-from-time-to-time was going to be there and there would therefore be coffee, cake and cookies after the meeting.

as i get along quite well with my wife's jw "friends" (some of them being my family in law) i attended the meeting just to take part in the social activities afterwards.. during the i-don't-know-what...'s speak at the end of the meeting he explained how telephone preaching could be used and blahblahblah... in the end he then said "so are any of you interested in trying that?

" - no reaction from anyone - not a nod, not a smile - nothing.

Bosho

Coffee and cakes?

We don't get that... never have!

I've been cheated!!!!

Although it does put me in mind of this dear old sister, must have been at least twenty-five years ago who used to set the table for the sisters giving third and fourth talks (?) (I was only a lass then so I'm not clear about which talks sisters gave !)

There was a pot of tea there and plates of cakes (all real) and they pretend knock on the door and up would get the householder "OH do come in, I've just made a cup of tea" and they'd sit there giving the talk drinking tea and eating cakes! What a hoot! I was so upset that I was never allowed to sample the fairy cakes!

There was also this time that one of the brothers dressed as a vicar for a presentation (Dog collar and all). I loved it, between tile couting and being absolutely terrifed of the "spooky hall" we had I really miss the good old days!

Oh and who remembers the break between the public talk and the watchtower so that the unsuspecting few that had tumbled in could make a quick getaway before the watchtower began?

And of course my favourite, the bit of music that played between the second and last verses of the songs... I was always making up my own words to sing then.... damn... now I'm teary eyed with nostalgia!

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given a roasting for our daughters behaviour!

by Bosho in

i'm not sure if i'm posting in the correct section but i had to put this somewhere just to let off some steam.. i have a beautiful little girl, she's just two and a half but she's tall, so she looks more like a four year old.

we live in a flat and have no access to a garden, the lady who lives underneath us is a nightworker, so we have to try and keep the noise down through the day.

which means that my poor daughter doesn't get the chance to run off steam.

Bosho

I'm not sure if I'm posting in the correct section but I had to put this somewhere just to let off some steam.

I have a beautiful little girl, she's just two and a half but she's tall, so she looks more like a four year old. We live in a flat and have no access to a garden, the lady who lives underneath us is a nightworker, so we have to try and keep the noise down through the day. Which means that my poor daughter doesn't get the chance to run off steam. We take her out to th epark etc but it's not the same...

Anyway, when she gets to the hall she gets really excited to see the other children, and she wants to play with them. Running around, screaming... we try very hard to keep her calm, while accepting that she isn't going to sit like a mummy.

On Tuesday night, (It's our C.O. visit) she gave a very short scream after the meeting when one of the other children pushed her away. One of the elders told my husband to "try to stop her screaming as she encourages the others to misbehave as well, and he couldn't hear himself think when she screams.". I was livid and told him that she only screamed because she was just a normal little girl who gets very excited and that we do try to stop her. His daughter waded into the fray ( she has two boys who frankly, are terrifed of breathing without permission) and told me I wasn't disciplinign her right and that I had to discipline her if she ran around as she could knock someone over.

I told her that I refuse to smack my girl for talking, or screaming, or running (all things which are perfectly normal in children that don't have to sit and be bored for two hours!) and she told me that I had to do it.

Bloody cheek! (excuse my french) I am so annoyed, she really upset me and my husband and as my girl was with us she heard them and saw me getting upset. She's just getting the hang of toilet training and she's quite sensitive to other peoples feelings (for example she cried when she saw Christopher Robin nailing Eeyore's tail back on!) and it really upset her, she had nightmares that night and she's set back in toilet training now, we had several accidents and she even asked to go back in nappies.

What has really annoyed me is that they were acting as if we let her run riot. We do try to keep her fairly quiet and not to run (I would hate to see some of the older sisters go flying). We try very hard, but obviously it's not enough, by their book anyway!

It makes me so annoyed that they think they can tell us what to do with our children. This particular elder even confronted my mother asking her if we didn't discipline her at home. My mother, bless her, told him exactly whats what, to which he replied "Ah yes, but does their yes mean yes and their no mean no! My daughter is blah blah blah!"

I refused to go last night as I couldn't face that self-righteous @&$&@ and her two spotless children (Who I actually feel very sorry for as they don't have much of a life) and I'm of the opinion that children under seven should be in bed by seven thirty any way! I hate bringing her home gone nine and then having to deal with her because she's overwrought. GRRRRR!

Okay, I'm sorry for blasting off at everyone... needed the release. The only reason I keep going is to keep the peace and not to break my mother's heart... but it gets harder!

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WBTS reply about UN involvement

by Bosho in

okay, firstly appologies for it taking me, like a million years to actually get back to you good people.. i was sent a letter back and guess what... standard reply was issued!.

i don't have a scanner (it blew up ages ago!

) but the main body of the letter was the same as i've seen on other threads here.

Bosho

Thanks Quotes.... and everyone else.

The elder I spoke to originaly was quite happy with their response. he could quite obviously see I wasn't buying into the party line so he told me that there have been quite a few instances in the bible of people doing questionable things and getting away with it.

David and his men eating the bread on the altar and Jesus doing things like breaking the mosaic law.

Hum.... not convinced. And feeling even less likely to listen to them after something that happened to us the other night. I've posted it another link if anyone is interested.

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WBTS reply about UN involvement

by Bosho in

okay, firstly appologies for it taking me, like a million years to actually get back to you good people.. i was sent a letter back and guess what... standard reply was issued!.

i don't have a scanner (it blew up ages ago!

) but the main body of the letter was the same as i've seen on other threads here.

Bosho

Okay, firstly appologies for it taking me, like a million years to actually get back to you good people.

I was sent a letter back and guess what... standard reply was issued!

I don't have a scanner (it blew up ages ago!) but the main body of the letter was the same as I've seen on other threads here. But.... I had a photocopy of an article attached! can anyone else lay claim to such an honour?

I can't scan but I've pasted the article directly from the CDROM.

*** w95 10/1 7 A World Without War-When? ***

[Box on page7]

THE

CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE UNITED NATIONS

In Bible prophecy, human governments are often symbolized by wild beasts. (Daniel 7:6, 12, 23; 8:20-22) Hence, for many decades the Watchtower magazine has identified the wild beasts of Revelation chapters 13 and 17 with todays worldly governments. This includes the United Nations, which is depicted in Revelation chapter 17 as a scarlet-colored beast with seven heads and ten horns.

However, this Scriptural position does not condone any form of disrespect toward governments or their officials. The Bible clearly states: "Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves."Romans 13:1, 2.

Accordingly, Jehovahs Witnesses, who are maintaining strict political neutrality, do not interfere with human governments. They never foment revolution or participate in acts of civil disobedience. Rather, they recognize that some form of government is necessary to maintain law and order in human society.Romans 13:1-7; Titus 3:1.

Jehovahs Witnesses view the United Nations organization as they do other governmental bodies of the world. They acknowledge that the United Nations continues to exist by Gods permission. In harmony with the Bible, Jehovahs Witnesses render due respect to all governments and obey them as long as such obedience does not require that they sin against God.Acts 5:29.

I don't know how to do all that fancy box thing you all do so well so I've just changed the colour of the ink!

But there you go.... so know we know. What we know I'm still not clear about.

And I'm still waiting for a semi decent response to their explanation behind 1 Pet 3v 15 and it's footnotes.... hum.....

I

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only negativity is permitted up in this place

by comforter in

jw
friends

comfy just gotta come out retarment too protest the tone of this place.

anytime somebody call people to account for telling abuse stories that may be false, this place want to kick them off.

but it ok to tell false abuse stories, so long as it make wt look bad.

Bosho

Dobby escape from Harry Potter book. Go back! Bad Dobby! (start banging head against wall)

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9-15-02 WT Q re: Beroeans

by abbagail in

hi undf'd or anyone with a copy of the 9-15-02 wt: i saw undf's comments in another thread (about non-dubs attending book studies), and undf'd mentioned:.

the watchtower society hates the noble beroeans (from acts 17:10-12), so much in fact, that in their september 15th 2002 watchtower, they changed "be like the beroeans" into meaning "do not be like the beroeans"!

... acts 17:11: now these were more noble than those in thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of the mind, examining the scriptures daily to see whether these things were so.. .

Bosho

GRITS;

You're welcome!

It is strange when they encourage you to study the scriptures closely, but not question them.

I always thought that would constitute a blind faith.

Anyway, hope you have a good day!

Edited for bad grammar!!!!

Edited by - bosho on 16 September 2002 21:5:11