Posts by Iwasyoungonce

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Spousal Abuse Thoughts

by DakotaRed in

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i have been having an ongoing discussion with a friend about spousal abuse.

she has come to accept and believe that i have never hit a woman in my life, but feels that i am a rarity.

i contend that i am not, that although too many men still hit their wives, they are in the minority.

Iwasyoungonce

There is not any excuse for spousal abuse. Period.

On a nother note. 90% of violence against women is inflicted by men. But, 75% of all violence is inflicted on men. Which means that 3 out of 4 victims of violence are male. When it comes to having violence done to you chances are it will be one male doing it to another male. I'm not trying to belittle wife beating. I'm just pointing out that guys we are all in this together. Violent people (pattern abusers, violent criminals) are the minority. They should not be tolerated.

What should we do? Look to our children, act like the people we want them to become.

(Stats are from the book Principles of Soc. But I took them from memory)

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DON'T GIVE JEHOVAH WITNESSES A BREAK

by Iwasyoungonce in

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it has almost always been my experience that when encountering a jehovah witness with sword drawn to defend relgion the first demand is to establish what clan (relgion) i have been branded with.

thus the nit picking of my faith can take place.

like a tit for tat.

Iwasyoungonce

I never took the hook.

But, they completely divided my family. My wife was in up till 18 then de'fed days before we got married. Of course they (jw's) don't see it that way. They claim to the rest of the family that they are my victim. They claim that I am a bigot and I only love money...Blah Blah. No one believes them. As everyone has been attacked. But they are afraid to create boundries that are fair. They want peace. I mean don't the jw's have a right to believe what ever they want? Which I say yes until they try to push it upon me when I say No. That is like rape. I did not know about the real truth about the truth until this year. Most of the people around me (non family) had little knowlege about them. More than 1/2 (estimate) have or have had some dealings with the group. All say the same thing. "They want to do something but don't know what to do." I don't think that SIA is approperate for all conditions by far. But if people were honest with experinces I think that would help. If they felt safe to talk. The media only covers "Religous" issue like 1% of the time. (Don't have a source where I heard that) And, although the JW's do have a right to do what they do we have a right to very publicly oppose it. No one should be allowed to hurt so many people and ruin their lives with impunity. It's really an outrage.

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DON'T GIVE JEHOVAH WITNESSES A BREAK

by Iwasyoungonce in

jw
friends

it has almost always been my experience that when encountering a jehovah witness with sword drawn to defend relgion the first demand is to establish what clan (relgion) i have been branded with.

thus the nit picking of my faith can take place.

like a tit for tat.

Iwasyoungonce

heathen,

Good point I did not mean to troll.

Thanks,

Jay

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Whining....

by Vivamus in

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friends

who do you whine to?

i use my mum to tell all my problems to.

i'll phone her, write her, haunt her down if i want to get anything of my chest.

Iwasyoungonce

I think that it might be in Africa where when you have a "gossip" or problems you get a goat and whisper your woes to it. Then they take it out and kill it. Problem solved.

I'll have to look it up again.

(Edit for spelling)

Edited by - Iwasyoungonce on 27 November 2002 14:34:49

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DON'T GIVE JEHOVAH WITNESSES A BREAK

by Iwasyoungonce in

jw
friends

it has almost always been my experience that when encountering a jehovah witness with sword drawn to defend relgion the first demand is to establish what clan (relgion) i have been branded with.

thus the nit picking of my faith can take place.

like a tit for tat.

Iwasyoungonce

It has almost always been my experience that when encountering a Jehovah Witness with sword drawn to defend relgion the first demand is to establish what clan (relgion) I have been branded with. Thus the nit picking of my faith can take place. Like a tit for tat. Catholic's, Islam, Judism, they all have flaws. All relgions do. Like people, none are perfect. (Thank goodness)

There in lays the defeat of all Jehovah Witnesses propaganda. There is no perfection. No perfect truth, and that is a good thing. Faith is something that is free. There is no price but acceptance. But all to often relgion gives a licence through babtism where if you keep the domga (faith) then you have permission to have faith. Well, that is not true faith. That is not free. There is a price tag, Your free will.

So the point. "IF" you claim to have the " exclusive true faith through relgion" (which there is no such external thing) then you have to be correct in it. It does not matter what I think. My religion, my FAITH is not relevant because you have established that only yours matters. You think that you are already right. If my faith is not recocognized as equal, it is like me not being recognied. I am not equal. So give the Jehovah Witnesses the break they deserve. NONE! You owe them nothing. I think that evil people should be left to themselves. And we owe it to each other to support each other and, not be in a bid to control each other. "Compelled to Control," That is a sorry life indeed.

Edited by - Iwasyoungonce on 27 November 2002 14:4:19

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Should I "come out" to my JW mum?

by Sirona in

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friends

first of all, i'm not gay so its not *that* sort of coming out.

question is: "should i tell my jw mum that i am now a pagan"?.

i'm one of those unusual (stupid?

Iwasyoungonce

Sirona,

Are you ashamed of being pagan? Evil-The willful intent to do harm to another be it mental or physical; Is this what you desire towards your Mum? Or, is it what you wish to spare her from?

It's the latter (right?) You don't want to hurt your Mum. That's a good thing. But, In doing so you have to pretend to be someone and something that your not. You have to hide your friends and your belifes. You are not letting you be who you are. Thus, you are not respecting yourself.

Is the price of the lie worth the price that you pay in a lower self-perception worth the payoff of the lie of a relationship with your mother?

Hope you find a happy place to be with all this.

Jay

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Report on news coverage in DALLAS!!!!

by Jesika in

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well, all i can say is wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they have been preparing everyone by way on tv and radio on the sexual abuse in the jw religion.

they had a small piece on the 6 o'clock news with a small interview with bill bowen.

Iwasyoungonce

(((Jes)))

Sometimes things go good, yes? Hugs to your son.

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So, am I a phoney?

by kenpodragon in

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i have taken a break from the baby wait to come to the board and see what is happening.

recently i had a run in with some people from another board, that also attend this board.

in a search of my name on this site, i see that people (two weeks later) are still mentioning this and me.

Iwasyoungonce

1 st 5 days over due, (((WAITER, CHECK PLEASE!)))

I don't know what you did "somewhere" else but from what I know about you Ken you pretending to be someone or something else would seem very out of character for you. If you think that you might have been "phony" whom do you think that you were? (One is entitled to get angry. And, One is entitled to vent. No one is entitled to intentionally hurt other people.)

I agree with you about imperfection. When we strive for perfection we begin mixing the ingredients to become delusional. You seem to be hinting on the needful and healthy actions produced through expressing patriotism for individualism. (Not Nationalism.)

One thing you "hit the nail" on was supporting abuse victims. Me too. One thing on my mind has been; what am I doing? Why am I doing it? What is my payoff?

Know this, the credit card I use for lamb donations is rejecting online usage. (No one knows why.) When I clear it up (or use another card for online) I will still make my monthly donations. I have collected my lambs for the European march and will be sending some "Lamb" candle molds I found. (Anyone know a candle maker?)

I no longer post at the SL chat forum. There is a very ikky element there that has made me not want to be there. I am not going to go into detail about it because if others like it then so be it. It does not mean that I do not support abuse victims. It does not mean that I have abandoned anyone. (As some have suggested.) I see us all as brothers in the stance against the WTBS. And, the same goes for standing against "rapists." What I'm doing is looking and pondering what else I can do. As there is life outside the Watchtower there is also help outside of Silentlambs. (That in no way is a put-down to the Silentlambs movement. As I learn more about resources I can share that information with those who need it.) I want to be as effective as I can. Issues that involve cults can become all consuming about the cult. They (cults) are designed to do that. So not limiting yourself to one style is good. (I have been contacted by my local Rape & Domestic Violence Center. I will be sponsoring at least one family for the Holidays. And my local involvement to help people in my neck of the woods is just getting ready to be born.)

You stated your Martial Arts Ken, Good for you! (I admire your dedication to yourself.) As for "controlling" your emotions, for me, that is like trying to grab water. The harder you squeeze the more it justs slips though your fingers and the less you can hold. I am gentle with my emotions. And, I am honest about them. That is strength and not a weakness. Do you agree? The thing about the physical side of your black belt is kinda like my S&W.40. IRL it can knock your block off. But, as for cyber-space it is of little use. (Unless you decide to smash the computer.) I do get your point though Ken. You have massive self-control. And it shows everytime you express yourself.

Are you sure that you were attacked for your views? Are you sure that it was for not conforming to some other's perception of a politically correct view? Ken I do not see you as my leader but as a friend. Someone whose "thoughts" offer me much to learn from. I have never read where you told me what to think. I have read and then I thought. (Thank You)

I do not see the problem with a lack of "Mea Culpa" as wimp mentality. A lot of witnesses would see my kicking ass as a tribute to their god. They would love that they took away my self contol. Apologizing for hurting someone means that they should change their behavior or, the apology is meaningless. For them to change someone must force them to. Otherwise they would have to take responsibility for their actions, and that is unacceptable. (Too many people can do everything to show regret but saying "I'm sorry, my bad" On that note, words can kill; they can inflict pain as real as any bullet or punch. Words start wars. Words can be real as any action.

I think that what people say and do shows who they are. If what one says or does compromises my integrity I will stand up for myself. The prices of some relationships are too high. I hope to never believe the need to burn the "KenpoDragon Bridge." Ken you are a good person.

Jay

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Dear Tech Support

by Iwasyoungonce in

last year i upgraded from boyfriend 5.0 to husband 1.0 and noticed a. .

slow down in the overall performance, particularly in the flower.

and jewelry applications that had operated flawlessly under boyfriend.

Iwasyoungonce

Dear Tech Support:

Last year I upgraded from Boyfriend 5.0 to Husband 1.0 and noticed a

slow down in the overall performance, particularly in the flower

and jewelry applications that had operated flawlessly under Boyfriend

5.0. In addition, Husband 1..0 uninstalled many other valuable programs,

such as Romance 9.5 and Personal Attention 6.5, but installed

undesirable programs such as NFL 5.0 and NBA 3.0 . And now

Conversation 8.0 no longer runs and Housecleaning 2.6 simply

crashes the system. I've tried running Nagging 5.3 to fix these

problems, but to no avail.

What can I do?

Desperate

***************************

Dear Desperate:

First keep in mind, Boyfriend 5.0 is an entertainment package, while

Husband 1.0 is an operating system. Try to enter the command: C:/I

THOUGHT YOU LOVED ME and download Tears 6.2 to install Guilt 3.0.. If

all works as designed, Husband 1.0 should then automatically run

the applications Jewelry 2.0 and Flowers 3.5.

Silence 2.5, Happy Hour 7.0, or Beer 6.1. Beer 6.1 is a very bad

program that will create Snoring Loudly. WAV files.

another Boyfriend program. These are not supported applications and

will crash Husband 1.0.

limited memory and cannot learn new applications quickly. You might

consider buying additional software to improve memory and

performance. I personally recommend Hot Food 3.0 and Lingerie 7.7.

Tech Support

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question for parents

by musky in

jw
friends

i have small children.

i was raised a witness, so i never celebrated holidays.

now, i don't go to meetings, don't agree that the watchtower is jehovahs sole channel of communication.

Iwasyoungonce

musky,

By the way in your pic...in your hand...Is that you having a discussion with um someone? Repellant? lolDoes it work?