Big warm welcome to the forum, Ms Bohm!
Might want to call the cops next time you see elders stalking you...Stalking is against the law...
(((Hugs)))
ESTEE
Posts by ESTEE
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by bohm inhey, im bohms girlfriend.. i have been arguing alot with bohm himself about the huge amount of time he spends in here:-) now i've decidet to look it out my self.. about me: i have growen up in the socalled "truth".
i was baptised when i was 18 - because of an earlier boyfriend, who wouldnt be with me when i was not.
now i really hate him for it... it would have been so much easier if ive never got baptised.
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No One Should Be Made to Choose ..LIES from July 09 Awake
by Hopscotch inthe following quote is taken from the article is it wrong to change your religion?
in the july 2009 awake p29:
no one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.
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ESTEE
(((Hopscotch)))
A case of "conditional" love is not really about choice or free will, is it?
I mean, can your family only love you if you are a jw??? Believe it or not, your family is under as much pressure to conform as you are.
"Come back to the organization or lose your loved ones" sounds more like an ultimatum than love.
Glad to hear you are being true to yourself.
Hugs
ESTEE
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don't cha just feel the love
by booby intwo comments from a yahoo group.
i deal with depression myself so i can understand what you and your son .
deal with.
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ESTEE
Ada wrote,
"Real" depression, where you lose a loved one in death, or where something catastrophic happens. -or- the fake kind, where you have the blues for no good reason. In the one case time and the old sky god will cure it. In the other case you need to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and quit whining and get on with your life, after all, how dare we say we have faith if we can't even kick the blues. ... Yes, stirring, wasn't it? The depths of the lack of knowledge never ceases to amaze me. Ada
Yup, the elders are "qualified" teachers and healers ...
Elders, by calling it "fake" depression, are not validating the person's feeling. Yet, a real therapist will validate what their client is feeling. No one can never tell someone else that they don't (or can't) feel a certain way. Feelings are real and deserve acknowledgment, especially when it is something like depression.
Big surprise that people are leaving the WT by droves!
People get depressed when they feel disempowered. To me, this means all jws are depressed because they have given over their free will to the WT. The members have nothing left to do but feel depressed, because it is not normal for a human to have no free will.
Depression is the body's way of saying, "hey, listen to me. There is something here that needs attention!"
Great thread!
ESTEE
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I am gay and Jehovah Witness
by yosisoy inhello, i am jehovah witness and gay.
i am from puerto rico.
i would like to know how hard is to leave the organization.
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ESTEE
Leaving the organization doesn't mean leaving religion, or leaving God, or leaving Christianity
VoidEater is right. Leaving the organization is about being true to yourself and using your free will.
Congratulations! That sounds healthy to me!
ESTEE
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My daughter (JW) just called .......
by mouthy inafter all these years!!!!
she is 63 yrs old still a jw.. has shunned me for years.. she lives in montreal me in ontario... .
last week i got the urge to send her a lovely card just to tell her i love her .
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ESTEE
(((mouthy)))
Congratulations! I'm so happy for you.
Seeing this gives me hope. It's been nine years since my kids talked to me.
ESTEE
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Are There Certain Posters You Trust Here?
by minimus ini've been on this site for a number of years now.
i don't easily trust just anybody.
having said that, there are a few persons here that know my real identity and i'm comfortable with them.. are there certain posters that you trust here?.
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ESTEE
(((Robdar)))
I haven't posted in like forever...Last I heard this site was closed.
Sorry ... didn't mean to hyjack the thread
Carry on...
ESTEE
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I'm 'Apostate' now....
by Butterflyleia85 ina new 'apostate'.. according to dictionary.... one who has abandoned one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause.
toward the jehovah's witnesses.. shewww... it feels good.
weird i never thought i'd say that.. as far as my belief system... i realize they are still going to be based on my up bringing as a jehovah's witness (morals included) so i call myself a chirstian.. {gees it feels like i just hopped over the fence or something in the movie "village" haha}.
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ESTEE
(((Congratulations Butterflyleia85 !)))
***Cheers***
ESTEE
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Started reading Crisis of Conscience
by KingDavidwasframed ini was referred to the above mentioned book but never thought it necessary before to read.
i am starting the 3rd chapter now and all i can say is wow!
what happened to me has happened to many.
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ESTEE
Congratulations on reading Crisis of Conscience!
That book helped me to finally see that the WT is an man-made organization.
I am grateful!
ESTEE
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I am gay and Jehovah Witness
by yosisoy inhello, i am jehovah witness and gay.
i am from puerto rico.
i would like to know how hard is to leave the organization.
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ESTEE
(((Welcome to the forum yosisoy! )))
Rest assured, you will find support here.
Just ignore all the bible thumpers' comments. They are not here to help --- but to compound guilt.
They can't seem to stop judging for some reason. Perhaps they would be better off in other forums.
ESTEE
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Are There Certain Posters You Trust Here?
by minimus ini've been on this site for a number of years now.
i don't easily trust just anybody.
having said that, there are a few persons here that know my real identity and i'm comfortable with them.. are there certain posters that you trust here?.
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I trust Lady Lee.
ESTEE