Posts by Icansaylucky

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Please Read, need advise or a good attorney

by Icansaylucky in

i need some input or advice or an attorney that would like to take on some jws.

just a little history about myself so its clear about my connection to this situation.

i am 50 yrs old and have been out of the organization for 26 years.

Icansaylucky

Hi jgnat, I'm not sure if you responded, all I see is my post under your name. Hmmm?

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Please Read, need advise or a good attorney

by Icansaylucky in

i need some input or advice or an attorney that would like to take on some jws.

just a little history about myself so its clear about my connection to this situation.

i am 50 yrs old and have been out of the organization for 26 years.

I need some input or advice or an attorney that would like to take on some JWs. Just a little history about myself so it’s clear about my connection to this situation. I am 50 yrs old and have been out of the organization for 26 years. I divorced my JW husband 26 years ago as well. He remained a JW and is in the process of his 3rd divorce. He and I have two children together that are now adults. We have stayed in contact all these years and miraculously we are friends. He is now making his fade out of the organization. After many years of doubts the Child Molestation cover up sent him over the edge. He was raised a Witness by a mentally ill mother and basically an emotionally and physically abused Witness father. His father finally left the mother when my ex husband was 18. He is now 56. His mother became increasingly mentally ill. She didn’t bath or clean her house. She seldom left the house and listened to the meetings by telephone. (I can’t think of anything more torturous than that). My ex husband and his current soon to be ex wife went to visit her a few years ago. The house was so incredibly filthy that they tried to clean just so they could stay there and she became angry and refused to let them even clean the caked with dirt and grime doorknobs. She at 76 years old called my ex husband and said that she was in love with a 17 year old boy in the congregation. She said she wanted to marry him in the “New System” the boy played along with this insane crush and managed to get her to leave him $100,000 in her will. A year or so ago she called my ex husband all upset that the boy had gotten married, he was after all 20 years old almost getting too old to marry in the JW world. She was so upset that she threaten that she was going to take him out of her will because she truly believed he would wait for her and marry her in the new system. My ex husband is never shocked by his mother’s mental illness and she made his life a living hell as he grew up. A few years before this crush she was in love with another young man in the congregation and spread around to everyone that he and she were going to run away to Las Vegas and get married. He was an older man in his 20’s, lol. He married and again she was upset and felt betrayed. A couple months ago his mother at age 79 was found at the bottom of her stairs dead by the boy’s father who is an Elder in the congregation. My ex husband flew down and before they even had the funeral the boy’s mother was asking to meet with my ex husband who is the executor of the estate, so they could get her son’s money from the will. My ex was shocked at the insensitivity and the gall that this entire family had. My ex husband wife talked to the boy and right in front of his 20 year old wife he actually said “it was a tough decision who to decide to marry, my current wife or the (deceased)” He was actually trying to convince my ex’s wife that he considered being with my ex’s mom. I don’t want to speak badly about her, but I do want to be realistic. The kid’s father the Elder told my ex husband that she was so dirty that they had to put a blanket in their car before she could sit down and the whole car smelled with her in it. She couldn’t get a dentist to work on her teeth because they were so filthy; she refused to brush them. This 20 year old for the sake of $100,000 is trying to act like he would have been with her. My ex wants to fight him getting this money. When he went to her house and started going through her check register, he saw where she had written this kid and his parents $10,000 worth of checks. They were completely using a mentally ill person. They knew that she wanted to marry their teenage son. They knew she had to be mentally imbalance and they were accepting money from her. Completely unethical. This kid is constantly calling and showing up unannounced asking for his money. Legally you have 4 months to go over the will. I feel my ex husband is entitled to every penny. His mother put him and his father and now deceased brother through so much. Her own parents tried to have her committed because she was trying to kill her husband and my ex husband’s brother. He has this documentation, so he has proof of her mental illness. Any advise would be appreciated or the name of a good attorney that is willing to take this on or refer someone. This is a California case. Sorry this story is so long and hard to follow, it was hard to write as there is so much information. Thank you for any advise you can give.

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Entertained at Christening party by JW

by Fe2O3Girl in

on sunday, one my closest friend's daughter was christened.

after the church service, we went to a small party for about 40 family and friends.

at the venue i noticed an elderly gent wearing a tux, and realised i recognised him from somewhere, but couldn't place him immediately.

Icansaylucky

Edited to add: He showed us how he did most of the tricks, to dispel any idea that it was magic! I bet you thought it was real magic before he showed you huh? lol My kids couldn't watch the Smurfs when they were little, but this guy can do Magic Tricks at Pagan gatherings. I don't get it.

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Fate or Coincidence

by deeskis in

i was wondering if others have experienced the strange pull of jw'ism in their life.

i know that it is a minority religion and yet i seem to come across it so much.

consider some examples of this:.

Icansaylucky

I have a two rentals, I was interviewing the woman and told her we didn't allow smoking. She dilligently informed me that they were Jehovah Witnesses and they didn't smoke. I told her that I didn't want someone that was only going to stay for a few months and then move because it was a pain to interview renters and start all over again. She assured me that she would stay probably at least a year because her and her husband wanted to devote there lives to doing the ministry and our rent was reasonable and they didn't want any material things holding them down. She said she would be willing to sign a 6 month lease to prove her sincerity. 4 months later she calls to say they are moving because they want a bigger place, I remind her that she has signed a 6 month lease. She says I don't remember signing it, I tell her that I have it sitting right in front of me and she did indeed sign it. She says well I didn't know what I was signing. The fact that it says lease agreement on the top wasn't clear enough and the fact that she's the one thats suggested a lease when normally we did month to month rentals didn't matter. She then tells us she is moving out early and we tell her she will owe the rent regardless of whether she is living there or not. She agrees, moves out and writes me a hot check. We call her on it and she said the bank had an electronic glich, I call the bank and they said the only glich was that there wasn't any money in the acct. Now she refuses to pay us because she has new rent to pay and has lied to us on several occassions. We also rented to her young 19 year old daughter and her 19 year old husband, typical Witness age for getting married. We have another rental and before we knew what a nightmare her mother was we thought they would be good tennants. They lived liked complete pigs, it was so filthy I was shocked. I now have mice in the rental due to their filthyness. I've turned the mother's check into the District Attorney's. When we told her that we were doing that, her sister called us and quoted us scriptures about being meek and mild at heart. I'm sure she was meek and mild while she was writing me the bad check. Coincidence or lesson learned. Witnesses are no different and possibly less honest than the average worldly person. Don't read too much into these coincidences, I would call it more bad luck than anything.

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Rename That Magazine!

by RichieRich in

jw
friends

attention apostates!

i'm sick, and i'm bored!!!

that means fun for all of us!.

Icansaylucky

Sorry, your son looks to happy to be a JW Child. He's adorable.

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They made another run at me.

by kilroy2 in

i was watching law and order last night at 10pm when the door bell rung.

i was in my red long underwear and jumped up to put on my jeans went down stairs to answer the door, i always turn on the light and look thought the peeper to make sure charlie manson is not knocking, no manson but two of my local elders from the hall.

i have not had any one from the hall take a run at me for at least a couple of years.

Icansaylucky

Who do they think they are to come at 10:00p??. Witnesses have the social graces of cavemen. How utterly presumptious (sp?) that they think they can take your Darwin symbol and flags as evidence. Since when isn't it enough that two "brothers" seeing the same thing wasn't evidences enough. Idiots I tell ya.

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I Can't Believe JW Relative Called

by Jeannine in

my husband and i have been basically ignored for about 15 years by most of his jw family.

his mom calls once every few months, but only to ask for money (yes, she is a mooch).

both of his brothers are elders.

Icansaylucky

Now I'm getting suspicious. I've recently gotten a call from my very devout JW sister. She heard I was having some health issues and called to see how I was. I'm disfellowshipped and hadn't talked to her in 8 years. She lives across the country from me and was coming out this way to vist my other JW siblings. While she was here they all came over to see me. I started thinking maybe I was dying and they knew it and I didn't, lol. Has there been new light perhaps?

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Back from the DC

by jula71 in

first they should have changed "godly obedience" to "society obedience".

i have never heard obey the gb pushed so hard in all my years as i dub.

it was amazing.

Icansaylucky

After hearing that, that would be my last convention. "Your only job is to eat" That is truly disturbing.

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How do I control my jealousy?!! Help!

by Crumpet in

the first time i can vividly recall feeling jealous was when i was 7.. my dad came home from visiting a client with gifts for me and my sisters.

my younger sisters got a beaufiful handmade doll dressed in pink lace called betty and a handmade cotton cot.

i got the 1982 yearbook of jws.

Icansaylucky

Crumpet, after reading your profile, I can't help but be concerned that you mention "killing someone" in your opening post to this thread. Whether it was a figure of speach or not. Am I reading your profile correctly as to the reason you were disfellowshipped the first time or were you being ficitious? Hope the later is true.

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My Story.................

by whyamihere in

my whole mothers side of the family made us think like that as well.

everyone knew who my family was!

i knew he was the once since i was 9 years old.

Icansaylucky

Brooke, you are incredible and I want to hurt those elders. Jehovah's Witnesses are the most unloving "loving" people there is. My family was treated similarly to yours because my father was an unbeliever and my mother was trying to raise 5 children as Witnesses. We we considered bad association as teenagers. Ironically most of the families that wouldn't let their children hang out with us, their adult children are not Witnesses anymore. 4 of 5 of my siblings are Witnesses. I'm the only one that isn't. You should get the book called "Swimming Upstream" written by an ex JW woman. There are alot of similarities to your life. It's inspirational and validates alot of the feelings of those of us that were raised JW. Do a search on Amazon and you can probably find one. Mumsy, I'm so happy Brooke found your son and you and your husband. I'm so glad you went to bat for them, I would have done the same thing. I hate bullies and that's what most elders are.