Posts by joe134cd

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Mays JW TV Broadcast/Your feedback is appreciated

by ToesUp in

jw
friends

i have a pretty good intuition but i have to admit i am going back and forth on the jw tv may broadcast.

i keep asking myself are they really in financial trouble (wishful thinking) or are they just grabbing for more money?.

i always appreciate reading everyone's thoughts and ideas on here.. let me know what you think.

joe134cd

Sure they are taking in money but before we all jump to conclusions we have to know what they are spending and Wt ain't saying nothing. I do have a friend who is currently working at the American bethel. I directly asked her if there were financial difficulties of sorts. Although unable to give me any proof. She was aware of the situation and said that there are rumours floating bethel about this. Another interesting comment she made was because of their vast real estate holdings it would help to keep them going. I think even the fact she knew about it and was able to give testimony that rumour is circulating at the heart of the organisation is telling. I feel if Wt chooses to go more extreme and hard core in there ideas, this will cost them, both with members and money in western lands.

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Was not reading the full letter out on funding a bad idea

by joe134cd in

other threads have touched on this, but i think it deserves its own thread.

i just wonder if not having clearly explained to the r&f that yes any outstanding debt had been cleared but the elders no it hadn't was a good idea.

i would get the impression (with out knowing part 2 of the letter) that wt wasn't in need of the money, so all was good.

joe134cd

Other threads have touched on this, but I think it deserves its own thread. I just wonder if not having clearly explained to the R&F that yes any outstanding debt had been cleared but the elders no it hadn't was a good idea. I would get the impression (with out knowing part 2 of the letter) that Wt wasn't in need of the money, so all was good. So why donate more. I wonder if it had been explained as new way of debt repayment weather this would of made a difference.

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Stephen Lett admits income/expenditure shortfall as he reminds Witnesses to donate “valuable things”

by defender of truth in

it's well worth taking a look at the article, it will only take you a few minutes.

but i would particularly like to highlight this part: .

if you are going to divulge a shortfall in funds, particularly with the aim of leveraging more donations (or valuable things) from a pool of supporters who are already lagging in this regard, the least you can do is treat them like adults and give some hard numbers.

joe134cd

Money is clearly becoming an issue.

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Legally can WT forcibly remove money from KH bank accounts with out the signees permission

by joe134cd in

i just wondered if the wtbts could legally remove the money from the congregation accounts with out the signees permission.

are the bank accounts deemed society property with the change of realestate ownership into the societies name.

legally could they get away with it if the situation arose , and if not how could they manipulate the situation so they could.

joe134cd

Yes I realise that unofficially there is a lot they could do e.g demotions, threats, removals etc. I'm talking legally here. Would this be another menlo park scenario of yes they are in charge but no they really are not.

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Legally can WT forcibly remove money from KH bank accounts with out the signees permission

by joe134cd in

i just wondered if the wtbts could legally remove the money from the congregation accounts with out the signees permission.

are the bank accounts deemed society property with the change of realestate ownership into the societies name.

legally could they get away with it if the situation arose , and if not how could they manipulate the situation so they could.

joe134cd

I just wondered if the WTBTS could LEGALLY remove the money from the congregation accounts with out the signees permission. Are the bank accounts deemed society property with the change of realestate ownership into the societies name. Legally could they get away with it if the situation arose , and if not how could they manipulate the situation so they could. Would It be another Menlo Park scenario? We will say in this example that there has been no dishonest behaviour on the part of the BOE. So who is actually in charge of the KH bank accounts.

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Anyone else have JW Business Cards?

by Lemonp in

my cong has these business cards on the lit desk for maybe 2 months now, is this just something that they have done locally or is this a org wide thing?

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there are two different types we have, this is the front and back of one of them..

joe134cd

My my I just can't get over how things are changing.

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Anti-JW billboard going up in Texas

by sunny23 in

the first ever billboard has been crowd funded on reddit and will be going up.

i'm curious to know if it will cause a spark in any jw's who already have questions or doubts and lead them to research into the child abuse cases and lead them to the thought that the wt and gb are not inspired or gods mouthpiece.

at the very least it will provide people a topic of conversation and questions to the jw's who knock on their door: "so whats this whole sex abuse in kingdom halls thing about i saw on the billboard down the road?

joe134cd

Steve= I agree this is only going to confirm their persecution complex.

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The new LDC / RBC Requirements

by DwainBowman in

the new ldc / rbc.

requirements.

there are many requirements, but when you get to the end of the form.

joe134cd

I remember there was a brother in my congregation who was a substitute CO and I remember publicly voicing my disapproval of this. Actually I felt sorry for him and his wife, as the guy had a mortgage and a good paying job to maintain, yet he was at the beck and call to drop everything from one week to the next when an existing Co couldn't make an appointment.

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Family gathering before disfellowshiping

by Mattieu in

if you were/are in the sydenham (melbourne/victoria) congo you may be very familiar with this a few years back.

a prominent elder who likes the sound of his own voice (hint, his initials are william saad) yes of quite a well connected family, was on a judicial committee who was disfellowshiping one of his own male relatives for repeated marijuana usage.. this story by the way shows how corrupt the whole system is.

as williams family (elders and c/o) had covered up the previous few sorrid outcomes of his drug usage, they couldn't contain the last public viewing of his drug dependency, witnessed by many witnesses ironically... so they held a jc to disfellowship him.

joe134cd

I can see this from 2 perspectives here. (1) although this kind of goes against JWS S.O.P and is kind of ironic. However (2) from a cultural point of view and with my brief encounters with the Lebanese community, where it's common for close family ties. I can understand it.

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questions

by DanielC in

i've been dating a jw girl for about 4 years and we've recently had a lot of issues with the fact that her family doesn't like that i'm not a jw.

i've been looking into the religion and am interested in it.

but is it wrong to join just so i don't lose her?

joe134cd

Daniel what I would suggest would be in the most kind and frank way to show her what is written to your question, and ask for comment. If she is the girl for you then this needs to be discussed in the most open and honest way, regardless of it source. If you get the reply of mentally diseased apostate then you will know where you stand on the issue. After all a solid relationship is based on good communication.