i'm facing a bit of a dilemma and wondering how to deal with it.. my fade is as complete as i want to make it but i'm going on vacation and lifelong super jw friends are going to be where i am staying.. i'm wondering how some of you have dealt with this in the past.. do i simply and uncomfortably stay quiet about not attending, going to the meetings?.
do i just matter of fact state that "yeah, i just haven't been going for a while"?.
or do i play the sheepish, discouraged, distraught role?.
- if he asks if you are going to go to the meeting - tell him your're on vacation - he probably won't say anything and might think you have a point there
- if he knows or finds out about the fade - adopt a very serious face and tell him you really don't want to get into it
- watch what you say - lifelong friends have been known to ruin a fade - you wouldn't want to come home to face a J.C.
i have seen these words/phrases used frequently by the wtbs and rarely elsewhere.
** warning, this may become a barf inducing list.
your mileage may vary.. faithful and discreet slavefield servicemodern day antediluvians (pulled that one out of my hat)what words or phrases strike you as uniquely "watchtower"?.
displaying fear of man
these people just love instiling guilt on these poor souls.. .
at a recent circuit assembly a circuit overseer gave an awesome talk during the portion, 'giving attention to the needs of the circuit.
and with such a high pricetag, please don't let it be empty.
Had a spanking talk like this in the elders meeting at our CA. The C.O got on ours backs about better preparation and presentation. When he finally allowed the elders to comment it became evident we disagreed. We felt the 2 main problems, which really needed to be addressed by the G.B., were format and content. Told him the meetings were too long for families today and the material too repetitive and boring. We assured him we would do our part and hoped the G.B. would do theirs. This was all very carefully expressed, mind you, but the message was clear. Didn't hear any more comments about meeting attendance from that C.O.
im a longtime fader.
a fellow i work with is married to a dfd sister who had divorced her jw husband.
a couple of weeks ago this work companion came to me visibly quite uncomfortable and said he needed to talk.
I’m a longtime fader. A fellow I work with is married to a df’d sister who had divorced her JW husband. A couple of weeks ago this work companion came to me visibly quite uncomfortable and said he needed to talk. His wife had gone through a serious operation. He told me he couldn’t believe she didn’t even know how to get in touch with her JW son. Her son had moved away from the area but had left no trail. My work companion told me she just said "they stole my son" when they talked about it. He asked me if I could find the son and talk sense into him. I said that might be complicated because I didn’t want to go through official channels and stir up the silt. Of course this worldly fellow could not understand my problem. But I had known the son since he was 12 years old and decided it was worth a try. I tried to trace him with the internet – no luck. Then I phoned some weaker ones who I knew would not report my call to the S.S. Unfortunately, they had no idea where he had moved but suggested I phone his JW dad. It was not an easy call to make but I managed to get the son’s number. The son was extremely happy to hear from me and told me he was going through a very hard time…he had just learned his JW wife had been cheating on him a long time. Apparently he had recently driven to our town and passed his mom’s place 3 times but hadn’t been able to go to the door. I told him I believed his mom would take him into her arms no questions asked. He said he was so very happy I had phoned and that he would get in touch with his mom. Yesterday I talked to the fellow at work. The son went to their place during Christmas holidays and even stayed overnight. His question to me was how can a son walk away from his mother for 15 years and then just cheerfully turn up as if nothing happened. I suggested not to dwell on that but to work hard to keep the relationship going and make sure the son does not get sucked back into the WT Shop-Vac.
Needed to share. Never give up hope…..
my eyes opened in more ways than one.
as i lay in bed that sunday morning, i knew i was never again going to rise hurriedly to get myself and the kids dressed and fed for field service.
i was actually feeling relieved and wanted to just turn over and go back to sleep, certain and content in my decision.. the day before, i had stood at the end of the block, after working a territory filled with barking dogs and people sleeping in after a hard days work week, and thinking, "never again".
Really remember our last meeting. When we got home I told my wife it was going to be easy to remember the last day we set foot in a KH….November 11 "Rememberance Day".
Can’t remember the where and exact when for service but sure do remember the why…
Having been a pioneer for years, I was being sent out to work with really young kids by the conductor. I had to take most of the doors and I began realizing the publications I was offering could do some serious damage. I didn’t even want to glance at them myself. The issue came to a point in my head when one morning I got the feeling that if someone wanted to accept a publication I would have to caution him about the damaging consequences of his interest. I didn’t go out that day or since.
--read 1 john 3:16.. comments.
q 18, 19. how should we view any counsel that we receive from a christian friend, and what example did the ephesus.
why not the david example here...david's servants and family had to know.. q 21. what will all of us do at times, but why is it vital that we maintain strong friendships in the congregation?.
Maintaining friendships…loving one another…unbreakable devotion…close friends…what a joke!!!!!!!!!
More like propaganda 101 used by oppressive regimes over the centuries.
Get rid of any old acquaintances you had "comrade" – we are your new "comrades"
Our mutual love of the motherland binds us together in "friendship"
If you notice any suspicious activity you must turn your "comrade" in. He will be dealt with.
If you question whether you are just a shallow and self-serving individual or feel dead inside from ratting him out, you must rationalize and tow the party line. Remember he was just a piece shit who was not fit to be called a "comrade".
Heil Hitler!
Thanks Bondie your info was very useful Sunday night.
y a tu quelqu'un qui vient du quebec ou qui parle francais icitte ?
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is there anybody here who is from quebec or speak french?.
There are people from all over here but the forum is in English. If you are looking for a French-Canadian board check out:
(Il y a des gens d’un peu partout ici mais le forum est en anglais. Si tu veux un board Québecois qui parle français check : )
my husband and i have been fading/disappearing for a few months now.
we haven't been to meetings in quite some time, but most of our family members live out of the area, so they don't know yet.
so with the spirit of joy that comes from newly exiting a doomsday cult, we have been celebrating all the holidays as well as my 5 year old's birthday (she turned 5 on december 2).
another time & place.
20-25 years ago in a conservative "god's country" us state.
a look around the kingdom hall could easily identify the theocratic pecking order.. .
I remember, as a ms, being so proud of our local reps strutting out of the circuit's elders meeting at the ass. hall. with their big initialled bags. We all admired how the suitcases had seemed to become more bulgey and heavy after these meetings and could hardly contain our anticipation to carry our own case filled with all the latest new light from the fds. What a deception to learn how thin the Pay Attention book was and to have to fill our bags up with old bound voluimes to keep up the secret knowledge deception.
it has been difficult getting my old database to accept new info and then there was no way to edit the old thread so this is it on a new thread.
this is a follow up from the older: .
yrs bethel
