Posts by Tameria2001

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Dating another Woke exJW or no?

by caves in

i find that the people here speak in a way i can understand because we have one thing in common if nothing else.

so my question is , would it be easier to date someone that has been a jw and woke up or not?.

i would love for someone to 'get it' without having to explain much.

Tameria2001

It depends on the person's view of the JWs. Have they completely moved on, or do they think it is the "truth"? A few years back my sister (she left the JWs as well), started to get interested in a guy. There was something about him that caused them to click. Then one day I got to meet him, and instantly I picked up from the way he was talking that he too was a former JW. I even asked him, and he said he was. So I asked him about his views on the JWs and the Watchtower. His response was that he still felt like the JWs were the truth, and eventually he was planning on going back. When my sister learned this (she was there for the conversation), she decided to break it off. She had no plans on ever going back, and she didn't want to be tied down to someone who was planning on going back.

Now on the other hand, if the other person feels the same as you, it can be a good thing. My husband and I both were raised in it since we were both 4 years old, both our parents became JWs for the same reason, that was to survive the end of this system of things back in 1975. In his heart, he never believed them, but got baptized because of peer pressure from everyone in his congregation, including his parents. We both officially left the organization at the same time, and I will say it was very nice to have someone close to me that I could talk to about my feelings, and he could do the same with me.

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The Biggest Issue Is Not Guns—It Is Mental Health!

by minimus in

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crazy people shoot up places and kill people.

take away guns and they will find knives, poison, bombs , etc.. seriously, there are a lot of mentally unhealthy people!

they need professional long term help..

Tameria2001

if you remove all legal guns you will cause many many more gun deaths - I'm not sure I follow ... please be patient with me and explain. XD

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Because if all legal guns were removed, only the criminals would still have their weapons because they don't care about the law and won't turn them in. One thing that you don't hear much in the news is when a legal register gun owner does go in and stop someone from carrying out their evil deeds even further. Even if guns weren't the issue, those who are determined to cause harm would still find a way.

With all that said, to legally own a gun, requires an extensive background check on the purchaser. My husband had to go through that background check, and it took ten weeks before he was approved. On the plus side for those who choose not to own a gun, the criminals don't know who does or doesn't own a gun, unless someone advertises it.

There are even places still in the United States today that if you or someone in your household doesn't own one, your life expectancy won't be very long, not because of the human factor, but wildlife. There is a very long history with this tool, and this alone is what makes gun ownership a hot topic for this country. This nation was founded by the way of the gun. All a gun is is a tool, and it all depends on who handling this tool. It takes the human factor to decide how it is going to be used. Will it be for the benefit or the harm of others?

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How many Witnesses would drink the cool aid at a "Jonestown?"

by Witness 007 in

so my mum died from mild form of lukemia which can simply be treated with a blood transfusion each month.

to me this was a watchtower assisted suicide.

the liaison elder encouraged her to "stay strong" and said a prayer.

Tameria2001

I'm pretty sure my mom would.

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The paranormal.

by Lost in the fog in

i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

Tameria2001

I've personally witnessed too much to not believe in spirits or whatever you want to call them.

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Did you enjoy your visit to Bethel?

by Addison0998 in

i recently had to take a trip with my family to bethel.

it was a bit torturous for a secret apostate as you can imagine.

but mostly just so boring.

Tameria2001

Let me see, I visited Bethel and Walkill (did I say the name correctly) once back in 1989 or was it 90, it's all a blur now. I went with a tour group of other JWs from Wisconsin, I lived in Kansas at the time. I went because my JW cousin was going, she was the same woman who got my mom involved with the JWs in the first place. I was young, single, a regular pioneer, and fully believed in the JW bull$#it. But I had no desire to live there, just wanted to see what all the hype was all about. We didn't eat at Bethel, but some Greek restaurant that was close by. I learned two things, first I hate Greek food, and two check the restroom of a restaurant before eating at the same location. Nasty restrooms mean nasty unclean kitchens.

I don't regret going, because with that trip I was able to see both the basement and the top of both of the twin towers, and got to visit a really cool winery close to Wallkill.

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Hidden Doctrines

by jhine in

" religions do not volunteer their most offensive doctrines to newcomers ".

the above sentence was posted on another thread as part of a quote taken from jwfacts .

l commented that this was a sweeping generalisation of the kind often made about all religions .

Tameria2001

This was involving my husband's aunt and several of his other close relatives. There were several who were actually studying to become JWs. That was until they saw the darker side of the organization. My husband's dad became a JW back in around 1974, and he was the first one of the family to become one. Shortly after that his mother (my husband's grandmother), and one of his sisters (aunt) also became JWs as well. There were a total of 3 biological sisters in this side of the family. The middle sister had studied with the JWs for a while but stopped because things just got to busy for this her. For a very long time, she thought that the JWs were a good route to go as far as religion is concerned. Now fast forward to 2001 she decided she wanted to see about getting going with the JWs again with a bible study, and eventually become baptized herself. At this point in time, she did not know about the shunning practices. In the fall of 2001, my husband and I left, and she got to see first hand how they treat their own children who disagreed with the religion, and it was not a pleasant site. Her family is very important to her and she could not even comprehend how a parent can turn their backs on their own children and grandchildren just because they don't see eye to eye on the same subject.

She did try very hard to get her current and former JW relatives in the same location but failed every time. The JW relatives would always make up some lame excuse and not show up if they knew we were showing up. This was what opened her eyes to the JWs, and she refuses to have anything to do with that group as a result. It didn't help their case and when they were saying untrue things to her about us as well.

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Why can JW's attend funerals or weddings in a church?

by QuestioningEverything in

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what is the reasoning/policy behind the practice that a jw can't attend an event such as funeral or wedding in another church?

i know of someone that didn't attend her older sisters funeral because it was held in a baptist church.

she waited outside until the service was over and then went to the family dinner afterwards.

Tameria2001

When I was still a JW and living at home with my parents, mom refused to even step in any church, even when for her niece's wedding, and a few short years later her funeral. My cousin was killed in a horrible traffic collision. We even sat out in the car outside the church during both times. Her answer was, what if Armageddon happened at the very moment we were inside a church, and God brought that building down on top of our heads? The ironic part was mom grew up as a Luthern and went to church every Sunday.

The very first time I ever stepped foot inside a church was much later, and the fear I had about that building falling down on my head was quite intense. But I decided to overcome my fears, and I'm glad I did because that was one less thing the Watchtower had control over on me.

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12/31/2018 World-wide action “Escape from the watchtower" #escapefromthewatchtower

by AlexPancho in

good afternoon!

we are ex jehovah's witnesses.. in this video, we begin the world-wide action.

we call it action “escape from the watchtower”.. slavery in the united states was abolished on december 18, 1865. the fortress law in russia was abolished(аболиш) on february 19, 1861.. but jehovah's witnesses are still in captivity, in fear that they or their loved ones will ban communication through a procedure known as disfellowship.. we offer three easy steps to release:.

Tameria2001

I recently found out that by writing a letting is a very bad thing to do. When a person does this, they give up their civil rights regarding the Watchtower.

This was where I learned this from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCAOW9mrTV8

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Do You Watch Late Night TV ?

by minimus in

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friends

i used to watch the tonight show starring johnny carson and jay leno.i loved the show.

it was funny, well written and timely.

back in the day ,i used to watch arsenio hall and sometimes letterman and conan.

Tameria2001

What minimus said is exactly why I don't want it either. The thing that really irritates me about it - one side is always complaining about how mean and nasty the other side is being to them, and then they turn right around and are doing EXACTLY to others what they are complaining about.

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What was the last thing you said to your jw family?

by caves in

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7 years ago i had my last conversation with the toxic jw that mostly raised me.

every conversation was toxic for my entire adult life with her.

the last time we spoke was right before the memorial 7 years ago and she was laying on the usual heavy guilt and fear mongering about how jeho counts his people at the memorial.

Tameria2001

The last thing I ever said to my JW mother was this. But let me back up a bit. In 2001 I dissociated myself from the Watchtower, and at that time I told my mom that the JWs were nothing but false prophets, and can not be truly God's organization, and used that scripture in Deuteronomy. That was a face to face conversation, Then a few days later she decided she didn't want me to have the last word, and she sent me the most hate-filled letter. She ended it with how she wished she never gave birth to me and signed off from the woman who gave birth to you. The things she wrote in that letter felt just like she ripped out my heart.

But that was not the end, oh no, not by a long shot. In 2005, she decided to reach out to me, but she was being kind ~~~Mind Tricks~~~. For a while, she would talk to me on the phone, and we would converse by letters. Then after getting my hopes up, she would ask me if I am coming back to Jehovah's organization I would say no, and that would be that I wouldn't hear from her again for a little while. This repeated itself several times during the next three years. She would always ask are you coming back to Jehovah's Organization, and finally I replied, "No mom, I'm never coming back because I accepted Jesus and my Lord and Savior. And yet the mind games continued with her, until December 2008. In 2008, my husband and I bought our home, and when we moved to it, and I stopped replying to any of her letters for a year. That was how long it took for the mail carrier to stop forwarding her letters to me.