At least Freddy Franz tried to keep the shit together.
The current Governing Body is ill equipped.
Saintbertholdt
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New light from GB member David Splane!
by Island Man inin the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.
"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.
would he be part of joseph's generation?
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Hysterically tragic - the west stuffs up in Syria
by fulltimestudent ina former lebanese (christian) terrorist once told me a story (meant to be funny) about west asian politics.. a turtle was swimming past the shoreline of the red sea.
on the shore a scorpion calls out,"hey!
give me a lift over to the other side.
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Saintbertholdt
The Turtle story is very very old.
Its actually from the Greek story teller Aesop.
Originally it was a frog and a scorpion.
The line: "The Scorpion replies, "Why? I stung you because this is the middle east, and that's what we do.",
is where creative license was taken. In the original the Scorpion replies, "It's in my nature."
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Revelation 8:8 Is a comet / asteroid heading here soon?
by FuzzyPaul ini have read a lot and watched some you-tube videos (some by marginally lunatic fringe christians - not necessarily invalidating) searching for asteroid september 2015 or comet september 2015.. there is some biblical evidence that, if one doesn't spiritualize / make literally invalid by symbolic exercise, that at the time of the end of the age there will be a uniquely severe, single great earthquake (isaiah 29:6, zecharia 4:7, haggia 2:6, revelation 6:12, revelation 16:18) and destructive objects described as hail, mountains falling from the sky, stars falling onto earth.
i note that ancients would not recognize the vastness of outer space and meteroids, asteroids, comets, planets being what we know them as.. there is also the exact symbol of "then the second angel blew his trumpet, and a great mountain of fire was thrown into the sea.
one-third of the water in the sea became blood, one-third of all things living in the sea died, and one-third of all the ships on the sea were destroyed.
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Saintbertholdt
So what happens when October 2015 arrives without incident?
Do you just adjust your date like the Watchtower corporation?
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Angola BANS ISLAM and MUSLIMS. Calls it a sect.
by PaintedToeNail inangola has banned islam and closed the mosques, saying that it is a sect and counter to the culture of the country.. http://www.worldbulletin.net/headlines/163865/angola-bans-islam-shuts-down-mosques .
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Saintbertholdt
Angola has about 90 000 Muslims.
After this lets say about 10% will be upset that they can't go to Friday prayer at the local mosque. That's about 9000 Muslims.
About 10% of the above number are so angry they'd be willing to commit an act of violence. That's 900 Muslims.
Of those 10% would be willing to commit an act of terror. 90 Muslims.
Of those 10% would be willing to commit a suicide attack. That's 9 Muslims.
Congratulations Angola. You've just created a new insurgency.
And you were recovering so well.
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Revelation 8:8 Is a comet / asteroid heading here soon?
by FuzzyPaul ini have read a lot and watched some you-tube videos (some by marginally lunatic fringe christians - not necessarily invalidating) searching for asteroid september 2015 or comet september 2015.. there is some biblical evidence that, if one doesn't spiritualize / make literally invalid by symbolic exercise, that at the time of the end of the age there will be a uniquely severe, single great earthquake (isaiah 29:6, zecharia 4:7, haggia 2:6, revelation 6:12, revelation 16:18) and destructive objects described as hail, mountains falling from the sky, stars falling onto earth.
i note that ancients would not recognize the vastness of outer space and meteroids, asteroids, comets, planets being what we know them as.. there is also the exact symbol of "then the second angel blew his trumpet, and a great mountain of fire was thrown into the sea.
one-third of the water in the sea became blood, one-third of all things living in the sea died, and one-third of all the ships on the sea were destroyed.
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Saintbertholdt
Comet/Asteroid heading for earth?
We've got it covered.
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JW logo and symbolism
by Illuminated inthere's a recent thread regarding the jw indoctrination expressed on the net, particularly instagram.
from an outsider looking in, i noticed this when looking through jw instagram profiles.
it came off super cult-ish and robotic along with similar wording used as though everyone, male or female, is a stepford wife (watch the movie for those who haven't seen it).
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Saintbertholdt
"I'm blue, daba-dee-daba-die, ba- daba-dee-daba-die...'
Thanks. Now I can't get that damn song out of my head.
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Four Jehovah's Witnesses face death penalty - Victim of Pakistan's Blasphemy Law.
by Sol Reform infour jehovah's witnesses face death penalty - victim of pakistan's blasphemy law.. http://www.charismanews.com/world/44004-popular-tv-show-the-latest-victim-of-pakistan-s-blasphemy-law.
popular tv show the latest victim of pakistan's blasphemy law 10:00am edt 5/28/2014.
world watch monitor film actress veena malik and her husband, assad khattak khan, were charged with blasphemy after a re-enactment of their wedding appeared on "utho jago pakistan.
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Saintbertholdt
This is a travesty.
Muslims get frustrated because their 'superior' theocratic Sharia law has not produced a superior culture. All that it has resulted in is the dampening of their own creative spirit.
Democracy will always be more developed in all facets of life compared to any form of tyranny. It is therefore imperative to guard not only the democratic political process, but also its pinnacle: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
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OSCE (The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe
by Paul Bonanno ini have noticed that the jws are participating in meetings organized by the osce.
they are registered or participate under the "european association of jehovah's christian witnesses".
one point highlighted in this organization is tolerance.
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Saintbertholdt
Amazing.
The OSCE is primarily a political organization and tries to exercise democratic change through political influence.
So once again the Watchtower corporation is is not trying to legally establish the good news as they claim but is trying to politically establish the good news through their participation and co-operation with the OSCE.
The bitch is screwing around again and hubby must be pissed.
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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...
by Stumpy ini've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
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Saintbertholdt
I Love it Mr Stumpy,
I appreciate the fact that the documents are scans of the original articles and you even highlight the juicy bits (I checked when I downloaded the 1960s pdf).
Thank you very much.
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Jesus was historical, and inspired too!
by iconoclastic injesus said something that only our generation could provide an avalanche of proof.
he said: it is easier for a camel to get through a needles eye than for a rich man to get into the kingdom of god.
(mathew 19:24).
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Saintbertholdt
Hi iconoclastic,
To see the fulfillment of what Jesus said, I do not have to be a high-profile scholar. Just common sense is enough. I remember seeing a picture published in many news papers during Vietnam War—half of it showing the hapless victims who lost all their properties and became physically disabled, and the other half of the picture showing the bungalow and paradaisic surroundings of the owner of the Dow chemicals that supplied napalm bombs. This shows in most cases one can become materially rich at the expense of other’s suffering, hence rich man is convertible with disregard for others’ wellbeing, hence will have to be in the hell he himself creates for him and others (which means: disregard will never brings joy, hence gives hell, whereas regard and care for others make one feel as if he lives in heaven).
Lets not forget Boeing who supplied the B52 bombers to drop incendiary bombs, napalm and agent orange. Today's 747 is a product of the development of wartime technology. The B17, the great grand daddy of the 747 flattened entire cities. So every time you board a jumbo jet to take a holiday you are supporting those same war mongers. The fact is as long as war is made companies will supply the machinery of war. So the idea is to reduce war so that companies and individuals no longer have to have blood on their hands.
We're certainly not going to get there by inflaming each other because each believes in their own God or Gods. As a Christian you should recognize that God does not adhere to human temporal expectations. You are recognizing 'signs' as an indicator of a coming apocalypse. As freemindfade pointed out: "Every generation says these prophecies are/were about them." As a Christian shouldn't you rather try to make the world a better place to live, and leave God's things to God. He has his own timetable.
Regarding the coming of Christ: I find it interesting that within the old testament Israel was always given a choice. Do this and things will go well with you, do that and you'll experience my wrath. I do not understand why under the new covenant humanity as a whole no longer has a choice in the matter. I would have imagined that the coming of Christ could be a joyous thing for everyone because if humanity manages to solve most of society's ills the kingdom will be established not with a slaughter but with a celebration. Now if mankind cannot solve the ills and things escalate to total chaos the kingdom would be established with violence. I would have thought that God would still have given humanity a choice as to how the kingdom would be established: With sorrow or with joy. However for some odd reason God went backwards in the new testament although conscience and freedom is constantly emphasized.
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