from what I've seen and read on this forum I would say that most people here have a healthy ( and honest..) spiritual outlook...from my own personal experience I could ask/raise questions and doubts only when I was having my Bible studies before I was baptised in 1984...but...from that moment on any questioning or doubting was shutdown by those who said we should wait on Jehovah....but I could never understand how when it came to following his 'Chariot'..he seemed to change horses midstream...doctrines have come and gone...prophecies have been dissected and false presumptions made that I can no longer see Jehovah's hand holding the organization. In fact, it was only when I took back my duty to myself to base my life on real truth and not the ramblings of elderly men in need of a cup of cocoa, that I have rebalanced and refocussed my outlook. Raymond Franz's books are a real eyeopener.....yes..there are genuinely nice people in the congregations, yes..they are sincere and mean you no harm,..but....I have learnt that we are responsible for what we choose to believe.....the idealism of a young mind can sometimes come with blinkers...
westiebilly11
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In general, the people on this forum have a poor outlook spiritually speaking.
by Stand for Pure Worship inso i waz reading the august 15 wt study article, elisha saw fiery chariots, do you?
and it made me think about this forum.
if you remember, syria was hunting god's prophet, elisha.
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New Understanding of this Generation
by pronomono inanother tidbit of information about this generation from the 1/15/2014 study edition under "let your kingdom come - but when?".
they've changed it again.. this generation will not pass away14-16.
what is a third reason for believing that gods kingdom will come soon?.
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westiebilly11
what a load of utter hogwash.....inspired?.....;..more like under the influence ....!...and to think I went along with this nonsense for...30 Years.. .I must have been mad.....they haven't a clue about what they preach or teach ...
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Stand For Pure Worship, what convinces you that the governing body is being used by Jehovah? Thanks.
by The Quiet One ini struggled with this question before i got baptised.
what helped you to overcome any doubts?.
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westiebilly11
do your research sfpw....you will see that the gb did tell their followers that the end was imminent....1975 was a classic case.....and before that they even built a large house to welcome the prophets back in the early 20th century!!!!... other highlighted dates include 1986...peace and security....but there are others as pointed out on this thread....go see for yourself!
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Proof of a Kingdom Hall being sold to a church!
by Sittingstraight1212 init cracks me up if you bring this subject up to a witness , they always try to convince themselves that i'm reading into this!!!.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqwknq31ie&feature=youtube_gdata_player.
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westiebilly11
local south devon plymouth kh was sold to a coptic church....very nice...!
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RNWT: Has anybody else noticed this:
by TD in--not a big screaming deal, but the heading at the top right of the page is wrong here:.
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westiebilly11
..and in the book of Numbers too!!...Ha!!
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How many have read 'Crisis of Conscience'?
by tornapart infor me it was the book!
it opened my eyes.
i started it thinking it would just enlighten me about how the organisation works.
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westiebilly11
oh yes...most certainly....a brilliantly written and accurately constructed book....a real eye opener....I was shocked at so many things within it..but in particular the Malawi v Mexico debacle.....and the chapters on prophecy and 1914......just wish others within and outside the org would dare to read it.....Raymond Franz was an honourable man who was treated shamefully by his peers.......peers who have the gall to presume they speak for god....
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The Revamped Organization
by Nosferatu inwith the release of the new bible, i can pretty much say that the wt religion is no longer the same religion that i left 17 years ago.
it's bizarre.
they have a different bible, a different song book, a different "youth" book, a different "great teacher" book, and the "live forever" book is gone.
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westiebilly11
what has changed is the relevance of prophecy and prescribed dates.....so many dates original and poached from others have passed uneventfully.....they've changed the generation meaning so many times Bruce Forsyth could be behind it (!)....so now it's a case of persuading the faithful followers to hang on in there and put trust in the uninspired gb....publications which focussed on prophetic dates etc are being replaced with bland fodder complete with pictures of noah etc to colour in.....it has become a religion based on the sieve....full of holes and unable to hold water.........new light just means mobile goalposts.......
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Any proof that more JW's are leaving in greater numbers then before?
by Crazyguy inor is it just wishful thinking on our parts?.
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westiebilly11
a keystroke away from truth...exactly...the gb cannot control inquisitiveness and accidental discovery of facts and things that they'd rather the masses didn't know about..........and it could happen in a relatively short timeframe too....one match is all it takes to burn a forest of lies...
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What's with all the JWs unleashing the hate!?
by Julia Orwell inmost of us here on jwn, while we can get a bit narky at times, can put forth intelligent arguments and sound observations.
sure we can get bogged down with our opinions, but generally we back up our opinions with examples and evidence, and if someone has a different opinion with examples and evidence, we accept that without recriminations.
that's what adults do.. so my question is, why in the last week or so, have a couple of posters claiming to be jws come onto this forum and berated, spewed hate and judgement, and in some cases verbally attacked members personally?
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westiebilly11
faith is the assured expectation........versus... expectation delayed makes the heart sick.... No wonder they have hatred/anger for others who don't share their stance. The cult is causing many of its members widespread undiagnosed mental illness (disease..???!) by its flip flop doctrines and false alarms.....this must be stressful for those entrapped by its high walls.. you bet they're angry...confused....bitter......!
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A House Divided Against Itself Falls-Luke 11:17
by Stand for Pure Worship inthat text reminds me of one of a handful of problems peculiar to the ex-jw community.
second only to the wild beast's internal divisions, is the divided makeup of the ex-jw populace.
you know the one thing that indicates jehovah's blessing upon the worldwide association of kingdom proclaimers, is not only the continued success of the preaching work, but along with it the unity and love amongst the brothers and sisters.
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westiebilly11
the whole jw/watchtower org doctrine is one of contradictions and double meaning.....using a scripture ..out of context..to support a doctrine..then using the same scripture to suppport an opposing doctrine change.....when I was in.. it never crossed my mind to look/think outside the jw box at what the facts are..or to wonder how god seemed to flip flop on doctrines....that in itself is a worrying thing...allowing an org to shutdown one's own basic powers of reasoning is a sure sign of abdicating the duty to oneself.....I suspect SFPW has doubts ....don't you?.....but for the time being whilst he/she is bathing in the afterglow of a newly released bible....he/she will continue believing what they're told to believe...because its easier that way......