Posts by TheOldHippie

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Just wondering what is the JWs stance on the existance of dinosaurs ???

by AMO in

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was pondering today on the jws stance on the existance of the dinosaurs.

would be interested to know any belieavers stance on this eg.

your own belief and that of the wts current understanding.. insidentally i tried to search this on jw.org and no search bar, or at least i didn't find one ????.

TheOldHippie

That some of them might have died in the Flood, but that the vast majority died earlier, thru catastrophes or other occurances. If you search the CDRom, you will find some special issues of Awake! covering the topic of dinosaurs not THAT long ago, 10 years or so, and the question of when and how they died was also covered. I do not have it at hand right now. There was a picture of a long-necked dino on the front.I don't think there are any ideas about co-existence between them and man. Apart from a funny picture or two on some covers, as shown.

Voltaire or Rousseau - I do not remember which one, but one of them it was - dismissed the whole idea of fossils, and thought the bones found were leftovers from previously held lunches; so not everyone has always been quite up-to-date :-)

Schroeder of the GB told me they made huge food reservoirs for other animals when they died individually, and that of course is correct, but does not relate to the dying out - question.

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Interesting Read About a JW Missionary in China

by Wolfy in

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http://www.believermag.com/issues/201302/?read=article_scorah.

i found it a very interesting read.

the article was linked on one of my fav websites digg.

TheOldHippie

Amusing story, written by some novel writer enganged by the magazine to create a fake story. JWs in China do not act like that, and the Japanese branch which supervises the work would NEVER encourage making "worldly" friends as a way of tricking the gospel into them.

Nice try, but totally fake.

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Help with part on service meeting.

by msconcerned in

hello all i have the part in the yearbook and cannot find anything on the "smear campaign" and "media attack" on the witnesses in norway.

any ideas?

i have googled all kinds of inquiries and came up with nothin..

TheOldHippie

Mid and late '80s. Ex-JWs appeared on national television saying they had been df'ed for not having beaten their children enough. Newspapers and periodicals followed up. Children of JWs were beaten and ridiculed at school by others because of this, grown-ups had tough time at work etc. A few JWs were beaten up in service. Meetings were held between branch and authorities and it eventually died out. But it took years before magazine circulation reached previous amount. Studies dropped out, meeting attendance decreased.

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December 15 Watchtower --- A New Low in WT Anti-Intellectualism

by Room 215 in

i wonder whether any of you took note of the article in the 12/15 study edition wt "the simplified watchtower .. why introduced" i couldn't believe they actually had the temerity to put such tripe into print and onto the record.. i was flat-out astonished with its put-down of vocabulary building and self-improvement:.

one egregious example: " the time spent looking up words and explaining expressions (ostensibly from the "smart people's" watchtower) is now spent gaining an understanding of the scriptures and how they fit into the lesson.".

one jw cited in the article actually blames her college education for causing her to fall into the bad habit of "speaking and thinking a way that was more complicated than necessary.

TheOldHippie

Being something as strange as a University-educated JW, this is one aspect I dislike - quite simply. I think one should strive for good education. People are different, and some - like myself - get satisfaction and a meaningful work life from following one's interest. Put me in the forest, and I'd die within days. Tell me to fix my car, and the only way I could do it would do to call someone, and then pay. People are different, we cannot all clean each others' windows and cut each others' hair .....................

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Australia formally charges former JW elder

by Honesty in

former jehovah's elder on sex assault charge .

a former jehovah's witness elder who apologised to his alleged victim on facebook has been charged with two counts of indecent assault.

richard hill will appear in the heidelberg magistrate's court on march 1 over allegations that he sexually assaulted a six-year-old girl in 1981.. the victim, now 38, told fairfax media that mr hill did everything except penetrate her - ''he tried, but couldn't manage''.. she said she ''did not realise the gravity'' of what had happened until she was about 14.. at that point she told her mother, who could not act because of a jehovah's witness rule that allegations of sexual abuse would only be acted on if two elders witnessed it, she said.. much later, the victim confronted mr hill on facebook.

TheOldHippie

"At that point she told her mother, who could not act because of a Jehovah's Witness rule that allegations of sexual abuse would only be acted on if two elders witnessed it, she said."

Slight misrepresentation ........................

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Australia formally charges former JW elder

by Honesty in

former jehovah's elder on sex assault charge .

a former jehovah's witness elder who apologised to his alleged victim on facebook has been charged with two counts of indecent assault.

richard hill will appear in the heidelberg magistrate's court on march 1 over allegations that he sexually assaulted a six-year-old girl in 1981.. the victim, now 38, told fairfax media that mr hill did everything except penetrate her - ''he tried, but couldn't manage''.. she said she ''did not realise the gravity'' of what had happened until she was about 14.. at that point she told her mother, who could not act because of a jehovah's witness rule that allegations of sexual abuse would only be acted on if two elders witnessed it, she said.. much later, the victim confronted mr hill on facebook.

TheOldHippie

"At that point she told her mother, who could not act because of a Jehovah's Witness rule that allegations of sexual abuse would only be acted on if two elders witnessed it, she said."

Slight misrepresentation ........................

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Witnesses buying backpacks in spain

by OwnAccord in

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has anyone heard any info about the backpack in the us?

there's a topic with about 10 pages about it over in the spanish forum.

http://www.extj.com/showthread.php?22472-la-mochila.

TheOldHippie

Nothing new. A couple of years ago, a similar talk was given here, and it is all about how to prepare for possible nature catastrophes. In some areas, these are far more frequent than in others, and while it might seem "strange" to discuss it in an area where 'nothing has happened in a thousand years', then those living in earthquake or flooding or hurricane areas - just might find some pieces of sound advise in the points given.

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Unbelievable Assertion!!!!!!!

by The Searcher in

we had our special assembly day this weekend.. what the district overseer stated in his talk totally stunned me, and made me feel sick to my stomach.

he said, "christ is directing us through the governing body, and we cannot get holy spirit except through them!".

i do not wish to reveal all my thoughts on his statement, but i pray to god that it acts as a wake-up call to at least some of the audience.. suffice to say that the gb is now the mediator to our mediator, and from now on, i will have to pray for holy spirit through the name of the gb!!.

TheOldHippie

Is that something new? One of the baptismal questions state you are becoming a member of God's spirit-led organisation. It is there you can get the spirit, and since the GB = the servant, it must be thru them. 1 + 2 = 3. But I did not hear that said at our Day.

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Discussion with family member who is an Elder in our congregation

by Newly Enlightened in

so about a week ago, i showed my cousin & her husband [an elder in our congregation] the picture on pg 29 of our 4/15/2013 study wt and asked, "if jesus is head of the congregation then where is he?".

after several minutes of searching, dead silence.. i then asked if they had heard the part on the 2012 summer district conv the part about "our spiritual mother, where the c.o said that "the bible by itself does not shine thru as life-giving truths just by itself.

" they were shocked and said that i must have misheard it because that would be apostasy.

TheOldHippie

Excuse me, but is not the heading or title of the illustration "The earthly part of ......"

So why should my Lord Jesus Christ appear in an illustration of the EARTHLY part of it?

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Neanderthal and Adam and Eve

by Aussie Oz in

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was actually looking into this and so did a search to see what was already talked about, found the below quote on another thread after finding it on the cd for myself...stunning to me as i still thought of neanderthal man as a hairy monkey man or a complete fabrication, and here is what appears to be a twist from the wt that i never realized all my years in.. what i found most interesting was the bolded section (by me).

*** w64 10/1 pp.

588-589 pars.

TheOldHippie

But they were merely quoting, they were not themselves stating that Man and Nean had common ancestry. They were just trying to state that Nean was modern, and therefore a variation of man such as pygmees and inuits are different.