Posts by TheOldHippie

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Whitney Heichel's family confront Gresham woman's killer, sentenced to life in prison

by AudeSapere in

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i didn't see this posted yet.... .

http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2013/07/whitney_heichels_family_confro.html.

whitney heichel's family confront gresham woman's killer, sentenced to life in prison .

TheOldHippie

A very strong confrontation. I hope it helps them. And at the same time it was balanced in the concluding words to the offender.

I have experienced the same thing, although in a somewhat different way, but the outcome was the same. Years go by, and it is so close to me still, as if it happened yesterday. Every day I am reminded of what happened. Every day I remember. Every day i think and I am carried away by my thoughts. Every night I dream. Every hour of the day I am a tiny fraction away from crying. It is with you always. There is no planning, just for how to survive this day, the next hour, sometimes even the next five minutes.

Peace has been taken away. All that is left is the careful act of balancing, so that one does not fall down into chaos.

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Making the Jehovah's Witnesses OWN THEIR OWN EVIL

by Terry in

drunkards often scape-goat responsibility onto their drinking--as though it were morally defensible to cause accidents or death!.

serial drinking and driving is a plague on highways across the world.

drunkeness has been labeled as a "disease" and it isn't unusual.

TheOldHippie

But I really don't get the criticism on the organization chart, 'cause it says it shows the EARTHLY organization, and to my knowledge, Jesus for the time being is NOT here on Earth?

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Can't get any bibles?

by gold_C in

so according to people in every congregation i've mentionned it to, the slave isn't producing any more bibles.

at first i thought that they were going to release an updated translation, like the updated brochures that were given at the latest convention, but that didn't happen, and everyone from the branch claims that there is "a reason for it", yet they're being extremely secretive.. .

can anyone who's got ties to bethel help me out here?

TheOldHippie

Lots of Bibles over here, all languages available. So come over to Europe and get them!

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Yet another Septuagint manuscript using the divine name found

by slimboyfat in

larry hurtado mentioned on his blog that yet another early manuscript of the septuagint has been found that uses the divine name instead of lord (kurios), this time representing the divine name with ancient hebrew letters (yhwh) in what is the earliest extant copy of the psalms in greek.

hurtado argues that the use of the definite article before the divine name indicates that the manuscript relies on earlier copies that used lord (kurios), but the fact remains that all the earliest copies of the septuagint that have survived use some form of the divine name and none use lord (kurios) as a substitute.

that's about ten out of ten for manuscripts of the septuagint earlier than mid-second century c.e so far.. http://larryhurtado.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/new-oxyrhynchus-manuscripts/.

TheOldHippie

Didn't want your message to go uncommented, so I just .......... wrote one ............

:-)

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Masterful Refutation Of The July 15 WT "New Light" Articles

by Room 215 in

don't know whether anyone has made prior reference to this treatise by doug mason -- if so, i most have missed it; but it's an important document and "keeper" for anyone interested in throughly acquainting themselves with the logical and scriptural fallacies, not to mention the underlying intellectual dishonesty of this "gb = fds" change: http://www.jwstudies.com/the_truth_changes.pdf.

TheOldHippie

"Caribbean properties " ?

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Have The Witnesses Changed All That Much In The Last Few Years?

by minimus in

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when i was in it, especially as a young person, it was rules oriented but not like it is now.

to me, the religion is a lot more fanatical than ever before....what do you think?

is it the same religion even as it was 20 years ago?.

TheOldHippie

I do not have the time or interest to look it up - although I am sure it would only take me 27 seconds - but is it not a "classic" in organizational theory, that after the initial growth and enthusiasm and vigour and all that, they tend to grow stiff, to be more and more interested or oriented at looking after itself, to look inwardly in stead of outwardly, and that one of the signs of this is that they use more and more time to study their own history and maintain their heritage?

Many organizational history WT studies these days. I miss the two kings, the roaring ocean and the pouring out of wrath.

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GB and partaking

by Crazyguy in

i was told that before 2007 there were a couple of gb's that did not partake and that after the 2007 change now they all partake, is this true??

?.

TheOldHippie

i think the talks have changed during the last handfull of years. Whereas they a few years ago were boring in the sense that the larger part of them was about the fact that those present should NOT partake - more or less - then after the 1935 understanding change, they do not discuss that question THAT much any more. They say that the vast majority do not partake, that it is not likely that there are partakers present - but they do leave it more open to the ones present.

As they should. However, that again should not keep us from thinking what we like about some of the ones partaking. We have some more or less "special personalities", and only very few do not question their partaking. But then, that is their business. Must be strange, though, if they find themselves surviving right here on good old Mother Earth and not being caught up ...... Oooops! So I will have to live with my husband for all eternity, and I thought it would only be for a few years .....................

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David Splane in Calgary Alberta July 1st for special talk

by hoser in

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i heard from a reliable source that governing body member david splane will be giving a talk in calgary where all the flooding was last week.

TheOldHippie

He'll do his David and Goliath talk - you can find it on the net. It is a good talk, he is a good speaker.

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Interesting Genetic Research Published on Dog Evolution

by cantleave in

some interesting work has been published this month in nature and reported in various blogs and journals.

it is work that gives more evidence to support the fact of evolution.

a team of swedish scientists led by evolutionary geneticist erik axelsson from uppsala university have identified genetic changes that could have been responsible for the transformation of wild wolves, into the ancestors of our beloved pet dogs.

TheOldHippie

Wold to dog is not evolution, it is adaption, it is not macro-evolution, it is micro-evolution.

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Are individual Governing Body members humble?

by Londo111 in

when reading the watchtower publications, that seems hard to believe...especially now that the governing body has declared itself and itself alone the faithful and discreet slave (something that neither the apostles nor russell were), directly appointed in 1919 by christ, the unique channel of god upon who our salvation depends.

and such statements do not even scratch the surface of the arrogant and grandiose proclamations that are promulgated from the top down.. .

however, a few people who have met governing body members have said how kind and humble they were.

TheOldHippie

Quite the opposite - Stalin was a MAN, with all the shortcomings belonging to being one, but utterly human, whereas Hitler was a freak.