I still can`t get my head around why Jehovah God needs money ?
Isn`t he the B all and end all of all things ?
According to the JW`s he can make anything he wants to happen happen ,but apparently he can`t make money .
what happened to all those new printing presses?
the wt said they were going to double the amount of mag's every month.
i wonder what ever happened.
I still can`t get my head around why Jehovah God needs money ?
Isn`t he the B all and end all of all things ?
According to the JW`s he can make anything he wants to happen happen ,but apparently he can`t make money .
https://wetransfer.com/downloads/1b5fd97a37524735de3c44841bec9c8120200414110244/6a723a.
If Jehovah God and Christ Jesus are directing this earthly realm of their Kingdom for the past 100+ years and they still have to make corrections ,revise what they said a couple of years ago .? What good are they ?
If Jehovah and Jesus cant get it right first time off ,then they should resign and give it to somebody who can get it right first off ,as they are obviously incompetent .
i’m just curious to know the local attendance figures for the memorial.
my father told me they had an attendance of 140. not flattering for a cong of 100 pubs.
i was sort of surprised at this considering the quarantine measures and everyone being forced to stay at home.
Wonder if they'll come up with some amazing "stories" about how Jehovah made it possible for these new ones to watch a zoom.
Have a look at my post about the Memorial in the Phillipines just posted
I am now convinced you cannot believe anything that comes out of their mouths ,nothing.
and i would like as many as possible to view it and comment on it as possible because i cant believe they are still pulling this shit and the rank & file are still lapping it up .?
in this year of 2020.. i`m sorry i do not have the nouse to make a link or attachment or whatever and hope someone can do so .. i know, i had doubts about looking at it also , its on jw.org ,whats new or something phillipines memorial and an experience was given their about a young pioneer girl that had eyesight problems and how she got her doctor and hundreds more to go on line to watch the special talk .
and they even went on to say they had 30,000 non jw`s log on to the special talk.?
And I would like as many as possible to view it and comment on it as possible because I cant believe they are still pulling this shit and the Rank & file are still lapping it up .? In this year of 2020.
I`m sorry I do not have the nouse to make a link or attachment or whatever and hope someone can do so .
I know, I had doubts about looking at it also , its on JW.org ,whats new or something Phillipines Memorial and an experience was given their about a young pioneer girl that had eyesight problems and how she got her doctor and hundreds more to go on line to watch the special talk
And they even went on to say they had 30,000 non JW`s log on to the special talk.? Seriously ?
Please look at it and comment ,it was sent to me by an old "lost" friend . And I quote : "Good info tonight about inactive ones returning"
I look forward to your comments .
a local brother has called on me 3 times in the last few months and has just sent me a letter ,.
in the previous calls we kept it simple : i have'nt been to meetings for years ,don't believe in god now ,etc.
touched on how i was appalled at how the org handles child molestation and they were quick to say that there have been problems but the governing body has it handled now blah blah.
I have just received an e-mail from our friend apologizing for not getting back to me sending an attachment that she wanted me to look up.She said it had to do with the Memorial in the Phillipine`s and I quote:"Good info tonight about inactive one returning" So now I have no doubt about where she stands in regards to the religion ,where as she was always a bit evasive and non committal about it.
So I did open the link and it was an experience given about a young pioneer girl with vision impaired and how she was instrumental in getting so many non witnesses to view the special talk.Overall I think they claim that 30,000 non JW`s tuned in to the special talk.
The experience related is so over the top as being JW propaganda BS ,that it is just so laughable and here she is 40-50 years in and she laps it up thinking I`m going to be impressed by it and return to the fold .
I`ll have to think about how i will respond as my wife says leave her alone don`t upset her its her comfort zone.
That in some ways I agree with her ,but I will have to bite my tongue.
If you can bring yourself to do it ,you won`t be disappointed if you log onto JW.Org and click on the Phillipines memorial where they give this experience. You have to click on whats new to see it .
I was in two minds whether to do it or not but am glad I did just to pick holes in what they said.
with many people's jobs been put and "on hold" and other people's jobs going away for good, i couldn't help but think about all the different jobs i've had over the years.
i have been able to adapt and make do.
maybe this will kick in again....or maybe not.
I don`t know where the new jobs are coming ,but you did ask where have you worked at ?
Left school at 14 worked in Leathergoods taking on an apprenticeship
After 12 years decided I needed a change and got a job with Kodak in the testing laboratory for 5 years.
An encounter with some old friends took us interstate and I landed a job with a help from that friend in the oil industry as a lab technician for another 5 years .left their went interstate again and spent another year with the same company.
Went interstate again and got a job with Boral bitumen /roadworks and spent a year there.Left there and spent another year this time with Pacific films preparing chemicals for the photographic developments .
Somewhere in between all of this I spent a year in NSW and going from D2D so to speak landed a Job at Eric Worrells Reptile Park near Gosford and spent a year there.That was very memorable feeding and cleaning up after the wildlife ,one of the highlights of my life.I always regret not getting my son to take photo`s of me looking after these wildlife in my day to day work.
And finally I went back to Qld and got a job with Amoco refinery as a lab technician that was eventually taken over by BP and I ended up their for 28 years .
And i am now retired .Not everything there is in chronological order I just spoke as a memory came to mind .
The reason I moved around so much was because of the religion and I just trusted Jehovah would look after us as a family and in the early days jobs were relatively easy to come by .
I was very naive .And I was just bloody lucky .I shudder to think how we could have ended up .
But looking back now we had a great life ,and had some great experiences ,who else could say they hand fed fairy penguins or had an eagle momentarily perched on their shoulder or fed Dingoes , and fed platypus .?
i'm generally not a trump fan but i do agree that things that affect the entire country should be handled in a centralized manner.
trump is stating that he will dictate when the states can open up again.
many governors, dems and reps, are fighting that saying that they have the power, not the president.
Jw leaks has a thread about this "Disunited States Of America" that i and others have commented on .
Just to put my 2 cents worth in again : Donald Trump as President of the United States Of America is recognized as leader of the free world and at his word as the Commander in chief of the Armed Forces he can involve his country in a war anywhere in the world ,without any input from all or any states in the USA.
Yet in this case coronavirus he cant get what he wants done and is accused of being a dictator ?
Is he a dictator when he takes his country to war ? that also involves his allies ?
He`s a leader of the free world but can`t get what he wants done in his own country and obviously not regarded as a leader in his own country .?
recognizing that their states have one integrated regional economy, delaware governor john carney, new york governor andrew m. cuomo, new jersey governor phil murphy, connecticut governor ned lamont, pennsylvania governor tom wolf, and rhode island governor gina raimondo today announced the creation of a multi-state council to restore the economy and get people back to work.
this announcement builds on the states’ ongoing regional approach to combatting the covid-19 pandemic.. the coordinating group – comprised of one health expert, one economic development expert and the respective chief of staff from each state — will work together to develop a fully integrated regional framework to gradually lift the states’ stay at home orders while minimizing the risk of increased spread of the virus.. https://news.delaware.gov/2020/04/13/governor-carney-and-five-governors-announce-multi-state-council-to-get-people-back-to-work-and-restore-the-economy/.
meanwhile on the west coast:.
A President of the United States of America as Commander In Chief Of The armed forces can send his country to war anywhere in the world ,by HIS WORD ? he doesn`t have to have the backing of all or even a majority of the states of the union to do so ? Do I have that right ? yes/no ?
But in this case / coronavirus he is classed as a dictator ? for making an executive decision ? { LOL} As President of the USA .
He is leader of the free world isnt he ? Yet he is not allowed to lead his own country ?
I don`t think this problem would arise in Australia .
not sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.
i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.
to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.
So when Yahweh looks at time or "steps into it" on our level he can still see all things past/future/present concurrently. Therefore when he prophesies something will happen it as good as if you did it/are doing it/will do it. You have already chosen your actions at that point in time and he is reporting back what he has seen to prove His glory and power that he Truly is God. Your free will was never touched, you made your choice.
That all sounds very nice and seemingly makes some sort of sense ,but my question would be :
Where is their any real evidence that GOD has made a prophecy in the past and it has had a fullfillment sometime in the future ? Before now ?
Without it all being so ambiguous that you can make anything out of it you want ?
If we are really living in the time of the end ,the very last days of this system of things ,why didn`t he prophecy this say 200 years ago ? why are we looking at writings that were made 2,000 years ago ?
If C.T.Russell or anyone else for that matter in the late 1800`s were used by the Creator /GOD as his chosen people ,how come none of them have ever made or voiced a prophecy from GOD that has come true ? That can become verifiable and absolute ?
Can you name one ? from that time ? The late 1800`s ? Or have these religious leaders all fallen back on what was supposed to have been said 2,000 years ago ?
well as usual, the watchtower wants to make sure the rank & file keep the money coming in.
even if the jw's have nothing to eat.. 2020-04-10--congregation donations by electronic funds transfer.
https://docdro.id/himg31q.
Would it really be such a disaster if the borg did get hacked and all of their money was given away to some worthwhile genuine charity such as cancer research and helping children with leukemia or some other worthwhile charity ? maybe the Red Cross and the Blood bank research into helping patients.?
Maybe it would be Karma of some sorts.