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  My D.I.L.was informed by her mother ,her father died this morning.

  by smiddy3 in

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  my lovely d.i.l.

  heard of her fathers passing this morning.both her parents and siblings have shunned her for over 22 years.. about 1 week ago her mother notified her by e-mail that her father had cancer and was not expected to live much longer.of course they had known for a long time that he had terminal cancer.. last week my d.i.l.

  did ring her father and spoke with him.. the only other time they contacted my d.i.l.

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  Sorry Smiddy, it sounds like a sad, but familiar situation with the family shunning.
  
  With the covid19 rules around funeral attendance, this might save some awkwardness at a KH funeral with family. I don’t mean to sound callous, but I have anxiety at the thought of attending a KH for a JW relatives service, and I have a few.
  
  Someone on my partners side passed recently, late 80’s, we both actually had massive relief when we realised there would be no service at a JW hall that we’d feel obliged to attend, might sound incredibly heartless, but I’d imagine lots of ex JWs could relate.
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  Cardinal George Pell Acquitted Of Child sex Abuse !

  by smiddy3 in

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  cardinal george pell the australian catholic who was the 3rd most senior person in the vatican was acquitted by the high court of australia of all sex charges against him this morning.. after serving about 400 days behind bars he is now free to walk out of jail, to the shock of many.. this should make news headlines all around the world judging by past experience..

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  We can’t throw people behind bars with that standard of evidence, a single allegation hasn’t ever been proof of wrong.

  I think Pell is guilty of being complicit in many other atrocities, so he may not be off the hook entirely yet
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  Differences between UK and US Corona Virus TV Updates

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  i'm in the uk, and most days over the last 2 weeks i've watched the 5pm uk government update on the corona virus situation which includes questions from the media.

  generally speaking i've found the whole update, including the questions and answers, to be respectful, informative and non combative, with, to the best of my recollection, very little mention of politics and blame.

  certainly no political point scoring.

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  I watched some USA tv, couldn’t believe how much each side of politics were still ripping into each other and looking to score points.

  Even more alarming was the attitude toward the virus only days and weeks ago by many elected officials, some of the leaders in the US are beyond embarrassing
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  Need help - How do you determine whether to show a JW the truth or not?

  by AlainAlam in

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  how do you determine whether to show a jw the truth or not?.

  now some of you still believe in the bible.

  to you the answer would be obvious - we preach to anyone as much as possible.

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  Unless the JW has gone through some major life changing event or is having serious problems believing, any attempt to discredit the religion usually backfires. Better to hope they wake up in their own time, you can help if you feel compelled but it’s likely their defences come up.

  I doubt you can say anything to help wake them, you’d be better off talking to shower curtains
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  Isn't It Ironic That Many People Now Wish That Many of the Things China is Making Would Actually Be Made in Mexico?

  by RubaDub in

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  let me think of a few advantages to having mexico do more manufacturing for us:.

  - low cost labor .

  - just drive around or jump over the wall to see family and friends.

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  You want a toaster, you pay 15 or 20 dollars or even less. Not 40 or 50 for the same item if made here in the US or Europe, if they even existed

  Cheaper, they can be had for half that in Australian dollars. It is staggering how cheap this shit is produced.

  The west needs to change its consumption lifestyle dramatically also, it’s very easy to get excessive in the world we live in.
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  Some 'Minimus' type questions

  by NoAbuse in

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  why do round pizzas come in square boxes?.

  why is donald trump the most amazing man ever?.

  do you like putting salt on things?.

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  I let my dog inside for a bit this morning, but I’ve two dogs so one stayed outside.

  I’m feeling guilty about that
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  Remember the Revelation book?

  by wozza in

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  i recall when it was released ,that's when i was a drone, how excited i felt at the prospect of reading it and formulating ways to sell it at the homes in my area.. i thought, finally a book to explain the last book in the bible and indeed one that the churches seemed to want to leave alone!.

  i sold quite a few probably because of my enthusiasm and can still remember clearly the first day when i went knocking on doors with it ,and it's been decades since.. but over time it lost it's shine and my mind started to question the explanations in it due to the scene of other things being changed in the jw beliefs.. do you remember they flogged that book so many times in the book studies even when it was found to have "newer light " eclipsing it!.

  who else remembers the printed pages with the official corrections to insert into the book ,so many that the book collapsed to be of no relevance anymore really.....what an embarrassment!.

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  About 2007-8 it was studied again, but the WTS had produced lots of edits.

  Publishers kept their old books, and just printed new paragraphs on paper and stickered them into the book

  This crazy book combined with the bullshit editing contributed to me waking up, so it’s a good book in that sense, highlights the JW crazy
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  Remember the Revelation book?

  by wozza in

  1. watchtower
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  i recall when it was released ,that's when i was a drone, how excited i felt at the prospect of reading it and formulating ways to sell it at the homes in my area.. i thought, finally a book to explain the last book in the bible and indeed one that the churches seemed to want to leave alone!.

  i sold quite a few probably because of my enthusiasm and can still remember clearly the first day when i went knocking on doors with it ,and it's been decades since.. but over time it lost it's shine and my mind started to question the explanations in it due to the scene of other things being changed in the jw beliefs.. do you remember they flogged that book so many times in the book studies even when it was found to have "newer light " eclipsing it!.

  who else remembers the printed pages with the official corrections to insert into the book ,so many that the book collapsed to be of no relevance anymore really.....what an embarrassment!.

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  If you were born in the early 1980’s, you would have studied that book twice as a JW child.

  It was also drilled into your head that the anointed were ageing and shrinking in number so Armageddon must be close.

  Combine the imagery of something like the Revelation book with the doomsday mentality, it’s no wonder this cult doesn’t have many mentally stable members left, they’ve been ruined
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  When do you think Coronavirus will go away?

  by Iamallcool in

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  i hope it will go away in the next few months!

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  Usually things made in China don’t last long, this thing is Chinese made and built to last.
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  Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

  by Simon in

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  this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

  latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

  the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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  I think it’s unreasonable to expect these places to remain desolate for at least six months, like they’re saying. Half the kids at these places are usually there to escape family’s of serious dysfunction also.

  Of course people can make use of skate parks with out putting the community at unnecessary risk, it’s not a germ fest like the petrol bowser handle.

  It’s outdoors, keep the distance and enforce reasonable social distances, we are in for this for the long haul