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Is apostate an appropriate term for us?
by sleepy in.
how do you feel?do you like to be called apostate ?.
apostate just means: someone who renounces a former belief or principle.. to people who have never been witnesses it may not symbolise much.but to witnesses the word means a lot.in many of their minds it is synonymous with evil and perverted.. since it jw's who will likely call us apostate not others the term almost always has a bad or negative useage.. but it does identify us as people who have completely rejected the religion.. so is it good for us to use it or not?
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Hypocrisy in Bethal V's the publishers
by sleepy inlets see what is the difference between a bethalite and a publisher?.
when working in bethal you are considered to be a pioneer.. that means in bethal you can do carpentry , cleaning , cooking , painting ,washing clothes , ironing sorting out bills and accounts and many other jobs and be considered a pioneer and spiritualy strong.. you can even miss meetings do no ministry in the week and still be spiritualy strong.. if extra work is needed to be done you can miss meetings to do it and still be considered a pioneer and spiritually strong.. if you are a publisher and spend all week doing house work , decorating your house sorting bills out a miss a meeting or don't go on the ministry you are spiritually weak.. the elders will be concerned at your lack of spiritual goals and you may become an iregular publisher or even inactive.. of course the publisher has the advantage of having to do all his/her menial tasks after working full time to pay the bills.. i wish i could be spiritually strong like those bethalites.. of course as a publisher if i had a house kept as well as bethal employing all those extra workers to do so i would be considered materialistic, but the governing body can do that and still be considered spritualy strong.. of course there are no class distinctions with jehovahs witnesses all are equal just some more than others.
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Average age of apostates survey.
by sleepy ini thought it might be a good idea to find out at what age or after how long we descided to leave the watchtower.. prehaps we my find a patern in it which we could use .. i think what we need to know are ,.
1.age you left the watchtower.
(or age you found out it was wrong).
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Daniel in the Lions den.
by sleepy ini remember older witnesses going on about a tv programme in some country called "daniel in the lions den" in which a witness defended his views against memebers of other religion in front of a tv audience.. the witnesses seams to have come off the better, but it was mostly catholic priests.. anyone see it?.
so why are they so afraid to do so today?.
i would love to challange witnesses to a debate.. but i guess they are to scared.. bunch of chickens.barf!
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Help me find Hell picture, please.
by sleepy inhi , i'm looking for a picture that was in the societies books in the 70's or early eighties of a hell scene.
wasn't a witness picture , i believe it was from some eastern religion.
it featured people being tourtured in various ways in hell.
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Hey Americas not to blame its religion
by sleepy inmaybe its not america or its way of life as such that winds us foreigner whingers up .
maybe its not america that invaded iraq.
maybe its religion, the religious elemnet found in most western countries but to a much larger degree in the us.
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Was there/is there an Anglo-American world power?
by sleepy inthe society used to go on about the anglo-american world power.
did this really exist?
it would seem that britain and america were the two main western countries to come out top in the two world wars, but hey wasn't russia also an ally.
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When are JW's going to realise the GB's not writing books anymore?
by sleepy inwhen are jw's going to realise the gb's not writing books anymore?
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jw's have got to be wondering why there hardly any new jw books coming out anymore.and most of the newer ones are just edited versions of old books.
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What are the long term effects of having your life turn out to be a lie?
by sleepy inwhat do you believe are the long term effects of having your life turn out to be a lie?.
can a person really be brough up a jehovahs witness and live that life for 20,30,40 or more years and walk away unaffected?.
are the effects similair to say a person who doesn't know they have been adopted and finds out only as an adult their "parents" are not their real ones?.