Posts by Chook

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Love for the Hate

by IronSharpensIron in

jw
friends

i just wanted to share a perspective related to my experience with leaving the jw.

at this point, i have been df'd since i was 18. i'm 25, happily married with 2 fantastic children.

after being miserably at odds with my parents and extended family, i've come to some realizations as follows.. i struggled with the conditional nature of my parent's love- talking to me until it bothered their conscience, then cutting me off.

Chook

Hi ironsharpensiron

You are in the most difficult position beeing born into this religion to have this hideous cult destroy the normal family arrangement is so sad . Your mighty courage to stay away from this cold cult, with the family ties you're giving up because you were born into this and don't blame yourself you're born into this this crime . At least you Born into this you can blame someone for the problems, I was stupid enough to convert. Your young and got along life ahead,hope your blessed because if God is real and he looks for the brokenhearted yes surely you fall into that category . There will always be an ear and heart on this forum to wipe away tears.

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Double speak of the Watchtower

by never a jw in

sorry, this may have been covered ad nauseam before, but since it is blatant double speak of the watchtower, i felt it would be good to write a reminder of that.

below is an extract where the watchtower makes an effort to point out to the royal commission that among their members there are professionals with higher education, such as doctors and lawyers.

what they conveniently fail to mention is that the wt leadership repeatedly in writing and in approved public speeches discourages, even denigrate the pursuit of higher education.

Chook

Classic double speak is that the cult discourages higher education but when bethel needs a free dentist doctor or lawyer they specifically invite such brothers to bethel, yet condemn such ones in print for going to university.

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7 Things Most JW's Dont Know They're Supposed To Believe

by pale.emperor in

i decided to spend my sunday morning creating a youtube video highlighting 7 things most jw's dont know they're supposed to believe.

most of these i learned only after my exit of the cult.

here's hoping a few jw's will stumble upon it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er44oc0p4ny&feature=youtu.be.

Chook

We need someone who want to leave the cult with a bang to hijack the projector at the assembly and play this short video.

Pale emperor you did a rockstar job.

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Successes you enjoyed since leaving the Org

by Tallon in

thought i would start a discussion, and hopefully a positive one, on what successes you’ve enjoyed since leaving the org.. each of us is different as people, in life experiences etc.

however we all share one common factor in that we have all experienced the negativity, to a greater or lesser degree, of being a jw and the org.. each success is worth celebrating so i invite you to share some of your achievements.

it does not matter how ‘big or small’ it is, share it with us.. my achievement means a great deal to me both personally and professionally.

Chook

I'm only looking forward tallon, I'm taking control of my mind and looking to help the disadvantaged. I'm breaking free of bigoted control , I'm tryout of to give to the poor , it will be a long journey but I have friends to carry me

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I found a list my Wife is makingof subjects i have told her about the BORG.

by goingthruthemotions in

so me and my wife have not been on speaking terms for about 5 weeks, and when we do .

talk…it is arguing about the jw cult and more of a barrage from me telling here all the stuff i have learned.

i know i shouldn't do this....but, i get so freaking p.o ed aobut what this cult has done to my family.

Chook

Goingthruthemotions

this is where you need to be very careful on a couple of grounds, if you still want the marriage to work and you don't want to spook her toward the elders , if she has no plans to go, but you need to know her motives so as to prepare. The emotional wreckage this church instills in people is beyond belief, these real life stories of broken hearts is just wrenching . Try take the best from all the good suggestions that come your way.

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Millions now living will never die (orginally "may" never die) was the WTS lying

by blondie in

jw
friends

this was first said in 1918 and adjusted to "will never die" in 1920. of course, the wts taught that the anointed had to die to go to heaven; but there was no great crowd teaching then, so they were talking about all non-anointed people on earth.

the wts members were known as bible students then and had been expecting the end in 1914 and it was adjusted.

one date that was stressed at that time was 1925. so i think they idea was that people living in 1918 would be alive to see the end in 1925, which of course did not happen.

Chook

You can ask if this is gods mouthpiece that said this ,then God wasn't kind to that prophet by making him one of the millions now not living. JW marketing was pretty good in old times based on their ability to recruit people as free labour book sellers.

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Is Watchtower now loosening the bedroom rules?

by OneGenTwoGroups in

i was at my assembly when this was discussed last week.

of course i hadn't prepared and i heard "no rules about limits", or at least i thought i did.. here's the direct quote from the watchtower study article.. "although the bible does not provide specific rules about the kinds and limits of love play that might be associated with natural sexual intimacy, it mentions displays of affection.

the watchtower (study edition) august 2016 : making christian marriage a success, paragraph 8.. what say you?.

Chook

Thre were brothers in the old times who's spouses were made to feel guilty for these displays of affection and they stupidity approached elders and confessed such "sins" which resulted in divorced marriages, wrecked children ,all because some guys in Brooklyn thought they were Gods mouthpiece . Going beyond what's written is the orgs biggest sin.

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What if all JWs had put off having children?

by keyser soze in

could the religion have survived?.

i know it was never forbidden, but i remember growing up, how we were encouraged to put it off until the new system, and instead focus on a career in the full time service.. can you imagine if every young jw had chosen to follow that counsel?

it's difficult to imagine the religion being sustainable without the next generation of born-ins..

Chook

Then there would be no need to tell that poor little boy in the JW video who got a violin scholarship that it's evil to play a musical instrument with his wordly friends.

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New, but needed to vent- thank you :-)

by Danni Jackson in

i discovered your website this morning as i was trying to find some information about 'marking'.

you see a very close friend of mine was 'marked' earlier this week and as i know the ins and outs of the situation (as we are close friends) i disregarded the talk immediately as i know my friend is obviously having issues but is no way a 'danger' to anybody else's spiritual health.

basically they are dating a non-believer- hence the talk.

Chook

Welcome Danni

if that's your real Christian name and surname it is highly likely that you will be TOLD in no uncertain terms to withdraw from this forum from your elders, gossip in JW ranks is very high. If you ever were to become an advocate of this forum it's possible to be dealt with judicially. On this forum you will receive genuine assistance in understanding JW doctrine ,never stop searching and question everything told by the organisation. The organisation has a habit of denying its history. We sincerely wish you well on your search.Regarding marking its one of those grey area doctrines where sometimes the person marked is unaware they are even marked. The true church will be identified by love and charitable works , if your church provides little for the disadvantaged or poor there's a chance it's not the truth.

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Quick question to Jehovah Witnesses.

by SomeRusskiBeliever in

do jehovah witnesses believe jesus christ is lord?

looked it up in nwt "therefore, let all the house of israel know for a certainty that god made him both lord and christ".

" - acts 2:36a.

Chook

Russki you have just opened a hornets nest, they believe he is lord but is only a mediator for about 10000 special loonies who will soon help destroy all mankind that aren't in agreement with the guys shown above. Theses guys above believe Jesus directs their ever changing doctrine, these guys above teach that people who don't get their monthly quota for book selling activities will be destroyed by the lord himself.