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  Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  one thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.

  now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.

  i was raised into it.

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  waton

  The idea of an endless life, however, was never a question, had appeal for me. it was just assurance that life period would be guaranteed by an armageddon ( destroying those that destroy the earth) event.

  M.a.d. has assured that. so, we can do nothing about any miraculous , beyond our ken, future happenings. so I am happy, because I have valued, fulfilled my present life more, because I did not count on a future one, promised by wt or bible writers to happen.

  The universe will move on into the future, thanks for the great ride!
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  Jehovah's Witnesses are fleeing Russia

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw's fleeing russia crackdown, seeking shelter in finland.

  today in my local paper under faith, by andrew higgins the new york times..

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  waton

  well, all the witnesses crossing the border have to do is saying the "A" word, no, not armageddon, " Asylum ". under UN and EU statutes they are immediately entitled to all benefits, and with that free time

  Can start pioneering right away. courtesy of Finnish largess.

  Worse, they could go the Latvia, Lithuania , Estonia, bolster the Russian minority there, and furnish Putin an excuse to do "crimea" there too.
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  Irrationality of in important teaching

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jesus used illustration to make things clear.

  hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

  you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

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  waton

  The purpose of Jesus sacrifice is abundantly clear. His life for yours....that's the offer on the table. We won't get another.

  It is to undo the work of the devil, which leads us back to the talking snake. making the undoing a fake.
  
  
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  What you reckon? (I'm talking in my normal accent)

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there was this really lovely old geezer in a congregation i was in here in the uk.. he was an old bloke and very frit of giving talks and that.

  when he was on the platform he'd be bleedin' scared...like an elephant near a bloody mouse.. so, 'ere's my question, right?

  blimey.

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  waton

  did it enrich his life? I like your accent.
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  This Article Won't Change Your Mind - Great Read

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this article won’t change your mind - the facts on why facts alone can’t fight false beliefs.

  brilliant article in the atlantic by julie beck discussing the phenomena of cognitive dissonance and how it affects religious and political beliefs.

  it includes some interesting thoughts on how social media has magnified the problem.. spoiler - she is not optimistic about the possibility of successfully reasoning with members of religious cults.. the article also has a link to the 45 minute audio version.. link....

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  waton

  excellent cofty, thanks, will refer back to it. a goldmine of insights, sample:

  higher intelligence will serve only to come up with better arguments to defend a wrong position of your group (jws, creationists etc, )
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  Elon Musk causing an uproar on Twitter

  by Tallon in

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  2. current

  elon musk has called one of the thai cave rescue divers a 'paedo' on twitter.. this could prove to be a very costly post should the diver sue him for defamation.. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter.

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  waton

  Reading between the lines, it seems he is coming under extreme financial pressure, and while this has been happening, he has been saying some strange things to journalists. I am pretty sure where this is all heading.

  He has been accomplishing some amazing stuff, landing two of his boosters backward side by side on return in Florida, while achieving past Mars orbit!

  Why he did not leave the manufacturing to the manufacturers ? Anyway,

  Money well spend! Can not think of any better cause then one, related to his continent of origin.
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  Elon Musk causing an uproar on Twitter

  by Tallon in

  1. social
  2. current

  elon musk has called one of the thai cave rescue divers a 'paedo' on twitter.. this could prove to be a very costly post should the diver sue him for defamation.. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter.

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  Elon Musk is a fellow New Zealander. Quite frankly, to most kiwis he's a Johnny-come-lately embarrassment.

  I thought he was from Canada

  Is he not an African? I thought his kid-sized capsules were a great idea, even flexible versions if the passages really were too narrow. But, obviously the boys walked to their refuge place, not wiggle in, having to wiggle out. (bunk by divers). Lots of pedos in Thailand, just by averages Musk might be right. But that sounds like sour grapes by him, of having been shut out by someone eager to keep the spotlight, protect his turf, even while keeping the boys from a safer, more pleasant way out. Egos clashing, never good.
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  Trump - Putin summit , cold war ended

  by mikeflood in

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  trump - putin summit today, putin said : "cold war has ended, difficulties in us - russia relations don't have any objective reasons" .

  it's gonna be another stunt, too much interests in keeping the worldwide weapons race and the inmense profits.....

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  waton

  Poker player meeting chess player. We just saw Putin on the platform, and the world's best reaching up to him, eager to shake his hands. Now all hope, Trump does not bet the store to score.
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  How did Jesus keep his beard looking so neat?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a full beard and with a pair of electric clippers, i can't come close to having my beard looking at good and trim as jesus in the picture.

  i wonder how jewish barbers did it or perhaps his beard was more scruffy than is shown.

  does jesus even look jewish?

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  waton

  he had a perfect beard, had ladies ministering to him, spend nights with the Samaritan woman, (at least in her city)

  so if he can walk on water, give him a break.
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  Mosquitos....

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m watching a discovery movie about the mosquito.

  scientists tell us that mosquitos are the most dangerous creature on earth.

  nothing kills more than the mosquito.

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  waton

  wondrous creation---right? Glad he saw fit to have to of those little xyz preserved alive through the flood! Thank you Noah!

  The best connection between mosquitos and wood is not via a boat that floats but wood fibres that fly.

  The Mosquito aeroplane, the most successful, invincible design harassing the germans during ww2.