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  The gervais principle and jehovah's witnesses

  by wannaexit in

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  this chart says it all.

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  waton

  The anscious expression of David Splane is caused by his fear that you might discover the real reason for the overlapping scenario, the elephant in the background chart.

  The sham of the sheep generations.

  Jesus said the generation would not die or pass away before, or until all has occurred. so:

  If it is the "anointed" sheep generation, they must die before the end, not after.

  If it is the "other" sheep, are they not supposed to pass away too, after all occurred; as prophesied?*

  D.S lied. if he knew that, hence is ansciety ---., if not , "god" help them all.

  * last verse says the sheep ''go off into everlasting life, but it also says the generation will pass away,. everlasting life only in the afterlife?

  The tip is showing.
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  January 2018 Watchtower

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the cover page shows a photo jws loading a small plane with watchtower literature to take to a remote area in bolivia.the first study article introduces the 2018 year text isa.

  40:31 "those hoping in jehovah will regain power".

  according to them, you may leave home to do field service or attend a meeting feeling exhausted but you return home refreshed and 'jesus' yoke is kindly indeed!

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  waton

  The Yeartext is actually a fulfilled bible prophecy, namely motorless human flight, rising to ~16 km. higher than a passenger jet.

  Fulfilled by those that hope, are confident that they have figured out, applied the creator's laws, use of his energy.
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  How/when did you become a jehovas witness?

  by Lewis1998 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i've been a protestant for most of my life, it's how i was raised, but recently i started questioning my faith more and more and now i feel like my beliefs resemble that of a jehovas witness rather than a protestant.

  i don't know any jehovas witnesses, so i was just wondering how a lot of you found the religion and adapted to it?.

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  waton

  I was a protestant and accepted wt beliefs because my grandparents were true believers, with an ancient Lutheran Leather bound bible***, (I never read) that contained the wt answers to wt questions That I never had never a reply too, war, lefe.

  Now I realize, that the bible , really ancient is as wrong as the concept the writers had at that distant past.

  Before going into more bible details, using wt hype, study the fables, scientific untruih that this un-inspired book contains.

  *** their most costly posession by far.
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  Who is the "faithful and discreet slave"? & JW class system

  by Counter-Watchtower in

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  2. beliefs

  ive asked my jw friends that 3 times and never got an answer.. and can someone explain the jw class system?

  and or point me to info on it..

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  waton

  Jesus asked the same question.
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  Everlasting life on a stick

  by truthseeker in

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  i think the watchtower is the only organization that can promise a product (everlasting life) and never deliver it.. what fools we've been to believe this nonsense..

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  waton

  Peddlers of the 'original lie'.
  "You positively will not die" - Gen 3:4

  the lie of the wiggling schtick aka snake, faked by Moses and competitors in Kairo, kairos. ca, 1500 bc.
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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by Jules Saturn in

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  2. current

  this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

  1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

  6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

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  I suspect the GB genuinely believe their own bullshit. I reckon they are stressed out trying to make sense of why everything is going wrong. cofty:

  and David Splane saying: see, you 6 should have taken my spiritual flights of fancy more seriously.
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  Trivial stuff about the AGM

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  lots of good comments already about the content of saturday's agm broadcast.. i just thought i'd add my (trivial!

  ) comments about the magnificent 7:.

  -- loesch - was he intentionally trying to be boring?

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  waton

  Probably follows the lead of Splane and Morris despite being the senior GB member. Morris, yep,

  Sir82, or perhaps Poetzinger, the token central European who can yodel, a token like Herd, but less likeable. A table Server by trade, dishing out spiritual food he did not cook up himself. tip accordingly,

  You got to feel sorry for them being caught in a situation like that.
  
  
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  The Watchtower's Real Crisis

  by JeffT in

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  2. friends

  when discussing the watchtowers financial problems, i've generally been of the opinion that they probably are not in a real financial crisis.

  i've come to believe that money may be something of an issue, but its wrapped up in a much larger problem.

  this came to me this morning when reading about the annual meeting.. i think the society's leadership is just plain out of ideas.

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  waton

  konceptual99: I was not referring to the dethroning of the Apostles, but the pre-Armageddon rapture of the partakers.
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  The Watchtower's Real Crisis

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when discussing the watchtowers financial problems, i've generally been of the opinion that they probably are not in a real financial crisis.

  i've come to believe that money may be something of an issue, but its wrapped up in a much larger problem.

  this came to me this morning when reading about the annual meeting.. i think the society's leadership is just plain out of ideas.

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  waton

  The only major doctrinal point addressed in recent history has been the overlapping generation and that has been a classic exercise in trying to sell the impossible.

  They have offered nothing in the meat of the scriptures

  k99: Right, and by making the generation anointed, directly contradicted "Jesus" words of the generation "not passing until all occurs"..
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  In memory of a lost doctrine - the vindication of Jehovah's name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.

  he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).

  he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.

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  waton

  For vindicating a name, you would have to attach a meaning to it, and with "Jrhovah" becoming or "causing to become" anything thats suits the purpose or time, how is this done? a lttle bit like the four sided faces of the creatures on the chariot that face whatever direction it is headed at the time.

  Vindication demands a stated goal achieved, sanctification just a general cleaning. or?