Perhaps Jesus, who after praising the widow at the temple , also declared that the whole thing was doomed , and had a hidden message? like:
There is something wrong here, even two pennies is too much?
Posts by waton
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19Two coins of little value? Ok! Sure (!)
by purrpurr inlast thursday meeting was the verbal begging bowl item.
in which having told the audience that wt doesn't ask for money... proceeded to then ask for money.. among the usual scriptures cited "honor god with your valuable things" etc was also the widows mite story "she dropped in two coins of little value..".
and it occurred to me, two coins of little value in the uk would be two one penny coins!
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October 1, 1914 -- October 1, 2017
by Alfred in“october 1, 1914, on taking his place at the breakfast table in the brooklyn bethel dining-room, he in a strong voice denoting conviction announced: “the gentile times have ended!” “ – watchtower july 15, 1950 page 216 paragraph 1. .
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waton
"The kings had their day" , this idea, that the rulers: Kaiser, King and Zar, and your local dogcatcher were now illegitimately hanging on to their power, may have been behind the unscriptural teaching introduced circa 1929, that these were not the "superior authorities " of Romans 13, but that J1 and J2 were.
It took wt ~60 years to legitimise the "worldly" governments again. This flip flop indirectly acknowledging that Church doctrines migh be right, wt wrong.
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"Circumcision is a sign to set you apart from the people of the nations"
by stuckinarut2 inwe know that the hebrew scriptures, or old testament states that the practice of circumcision (of males) was supposed to be yet another sign that set the jews apart from the "people of the nations".
but apart from so many odd things, how dumb is this?.
i mean, how did someone know if a male was circumcised or not??
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waton
even in the gymnasiums that the sons of the elites of the time attended, the young men would compete naked. fts
The word for naked in greek is gym. so you were expected to strip before entering it. Not a good idea today in your high school setting or in germany where aome high schools are referred to as Gymnaseums. Gymnastics no sans gym.
stanlivedeath: Speaking of design faults, dwarfism of the foreskin can be very painful and odorous after puberty, so circumsion, however often it takes to get it right, is a freeing experience.
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JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here
by pale.emperor inhi guys.
sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.
just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.
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waton
did Jesus say "this" generation would pass away or not?
either way, wt wrong.
If it is the sheep, will they pass away after all these things happen.
if it is the anointed, they must pass away before all these things happen
only the wicked generation fits the bill, and that includes the slave, wrong or evil.
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Stupid, stupid nonsense in the October JW broadcast
by sir82 inso in the october jw broadcast, there is a "morning worship" segment in which g. jackson goes to great lengths to explain how the term "those taking the lead" are not "leaders".. the terms are exactly equivalent, of course, but jackson, with a wink & smirk, pats himself on the back for his own cleverness on how different they really are.it's just so bizarrely absurd.. imagine if such tortured reasoning were applied to other areas..... -------------------------------------.
restaurant manager: i'm sorry, the only position we have open is for dishwasher.
applicant: that's insulting!
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waton
elders and ministerial servants--aren't really leaders. They are the sycophantic followers of the real leaders, the Governing Body (although I frequently think they are just puppets, ...jp1692
That does not prevent some really inflated egos to take on that role, doing a minimum of work and barking (thinly disguised) orders from their haughty position of oversight.
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Stupid, stupid nonsense in the October JW broadcast
by sir82 inso in the october jw broadcast, there is a "morning worship" segment in which g. jackson goes to great lengths to explain how the term "those taking the lead" are not "leaders".. the terms are exactly equivalent, of course, but jackson, with a wink & smirk, pats himself on the back for his own cleverness on how different they really are.it's just so bizarrely absurd.. imagine if such tortured reasoning were applied to other areas..... -------------------------------------.
restaurant manager: i'm sorry, the only position we have open is for dishwasher.
applicant: that's insulting!
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waton
yeah, they have taken the lead away from everybody else, whether jws like it or not.
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Halloween/holidays
by Jules Saturn indidn't know exactly which subject area to put this under, but i was curious about what you guys do around this time for holidays, particularly halloween.
my view on halloween in particular has always been as this pagan, demonic celebration.
even now that i discovered ttatt i still feel the same way i do about halloween, i don't ever think it's something i'd celebrate.
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waton
since Ha low ween is fiction, like Santa, the bible, why perpetuate the fantasies into our young ones? how about reality based fun?
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Are We In A Computer Simulation?
by Brokeback Watchtower inelon musk believes we are and he's a pretty smart guy that runs spacex, a lot black hole physics may seem to present the 3 dimentional space as a hologram of a 2 dimentional sphere.. i think this is open for serious debate.
what are the pros and cons?.
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waton
This new scientist article contains the idea that such other-dimensional representations of reality is what takes shape in our minds. This link is to add to sbf's comment:
.. the possibility that a philosopher or a computer scientist may have insights into the nature of reality that I am not.." sbf
The article argues that 7 dimensional structures are created in the brain to establish perhaps even consciousness.
a simulation not of us, but of a greater reality in our brain.
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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching
by Jules Saturn inso this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.
to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.
david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.
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waton
You are an idiot if you believe bible teachings. Hb
I believe the bible only to the extent that it exists. Just its first verse contains an error of 10 billion years. that is 10 decimal places. but
as a debating evidence to disprove current wt doctrines it serves well.
"Idiots" might be the wrong word, the billions that were swindled from jws, were not earned by idiots, but hard working striving individuals, not mental vegetables.
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Altered Scriptures?
by punkofnice inmy spies tell me that the jobos recently had a broadcast where 2 scriptures have been changed.. luke 22.26you, though, are not to be that way.
but let the one who is the greatest among you become as the youngest, and the one taking the lead as the one ministering.. 1 tim 3:1this statement is trustworthy: if a man is reaching out to be an overseer,+ he is desirous of a fine work.
i don't have the tech to locate the broadcast right now.
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waton
The word overseer does not convey the idea of a participant in the work, but I have seen elders assume that role. Of course often they are in the same mess than the cases they judge.