Posts by waton

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God doesn’t foresee/foretell future

by venus in

if god foresee/foretell future, he could definitely have foreseen the communication revolution we experience today and sent jesus in the first half of 21st century [instead of first century] where the whole world could watch him performing miracles live as we watched will tsai, a young japanes visualist who brings dead fish back to life in america's got talent 2017—especially because god’s will is that “everyone is to be saved” (1 timothy 2:4)-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9af4wvd6cz0.

if god does foresee future, it would mean that incident are foreordained in which case it is not foreseeing.

but truth is that he has not fixed events.

waton

Even in Jesus' day, there existed near-instant recording, manual writing of tax receipts for example, but while Jesus, the most knowledgeable man who ever lived, did not sink so low as to write himself, his biographers finally got around to penning it decades later. so

g.o.d. has a safety time delay of decades build into his communication system, it is the past that is his pastime, not the future.

talking of the future, if the creator is eternal, he has been already there, eternally, watching us, from a distance, what will evolve, as we travel through time.

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Study article for this week, more self delusion

by stillin in

"set your heart on spiritual treasures.

" i have been thinking about this during the past week.

i always knew that there were no treasures on earth.

waton

with par. 16, wt admitted that the "pearl of great value" illustrated on page 9, is in fact a empty bauble, a bubble ready to burst. because it represents

The wt kingdom of 1914, with millions then living that would never die, 1925, 1975, 2075, were all sold as shiny new gems in their time, , but now are old tarnished, discarded truth in the "treasure chest" of jws.'

These burst bubbles of hope were once payable with your life. because you would have been disfellowshipped for opposing, not treasuring them.

No wonder the guy on page 9 is so wild eyed, it is crazy, too good to be true.

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Study article for this week, more self delusion

by stillin in

"set your heart on spiritual treasures.

" i have been thinking about this during the past week.

i always knew that there were no treasures on earth.

waton

The illustration, lead paragraphs' theme: joining wt will cost you. dearly, preferably all. as said before, the treasure is i nvisible, but it is worse, wt admits it is worthless because:

The coverup clincher is par. 16.

treasures are "scriptural adjustments" aka "new truth" "put them in your treasure chest, study them carefully, meditate..."

yeah, ( not too critically though, not as to raise embarrassing questions, like: why did we believe the previous treasure before, that is now trash? ( even expunged from wt libraries?) why did I invest all my life, time, potential wealth in that treasure, that wt has declared past invisible treasure / trash now)? why did wt make these mistakes? did not listen to "apostate" objections?

from wt treasure to wt trash, by one stroke of the wt pen. not only invisible, but with short shelf life, fakes.

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What would happen if everyone who ever lived came back? - Video on Youtube

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

very interesting video showing what would happen if everyone who ever died came back...tldr: 90% would die (again) within two months because of famine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-s34gz3xwgtherefore: "paradise" is just impossible..

waton

also, the inerrant inspired word of g.o.d. has it, that "the sea will be no more" [rev21;1] so, covering all the seafloor with flora, we can waterfront house many more, on the residue lakes, and feed them with vat crops, watered by the primordial mist. bible working in misterious ways.

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What would happen if everyone who ever lived came back? - Video on Youtube

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

very interesting video showing what would happen if everyone who ever died came back...tldr: 90% would die (again) within two months because of famine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-s34gz3xwgtherefore: "paradise" is just impossible..

waton

there goes the wt promise of a waterfront property with snowy peak mountain view for everyone. even any one, of course

then, at the end of the 1000 years, the earth will have 4 corners again [rev20;8], and then, in perfection, , a cube has more surface area than the circle .

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Do you feel comfortable being an apostate?

by Chook in

i always found it uncomfortable to informal witness to people but trying to convince a jw to jump ship brings much more pleasure..

waton

I am very comfortable where I stand, my stasis, apo- = apart. how could I stand at the doors with these false doctrines, abusive rulers and be comfortable with my conscious? I sleep well, anytime.

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The special talk is now BEFORE the Memorial

by wifibandit in

august 11, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: 2018 memorial invitations and date of special talk .

fyi:.

the 2018 memorial will be held on saturday, march 31, 2018.. the 2019 memorial will be held on friday, april 19, 2019..

waton

I know a long time missionary 50+ years that would never take a new recruit to the Memorial as a first org contact. Even Sub Marine Witnesses will be tempted to attend hat talk , even from here, (lacking leaks), to get a scoop of relief from the "good grief" what is this thing about? memorial feeling.

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Returning to the truth.

by Justmeok2 in

hi i am just starting to rebuild my relationship with jehovah.

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i would like to hear from people who may be or have been in similar situations and now want to dedicate their lives to him..

waton

I only have one word for you when returning to Jehovah (aka the organization).....RUN

while looking in the rear view mirror. (objects are further than they appear.

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Major JW mistake and where the Holy Spirit

by Crazyguy in

it's my understanding that the gb took out the text about the adulterous woman at mark 7:53 - 8:11, (this the all important verses where jesus says the one with out sin cast the first stone.

) sighting that it wasn't found in the oldest text.

which text are they talking about, the codex sinaiticus?

waton

at one time, wt took these verses seriously, ,. I remeber comments to the effect, that in the law, the first of 2 witnesses had to throw the first stones. and nobody wanted to admit that they were eye witness (with lids, covers closed) to an adulterous act.

bsw. There are other gems to confront JC with, like: "judgement will start with the house of god," leaders will have a more severe judgement" will be judged the way you are judging. my reply to them, you can do what you want, but remember, you are only judging yourselves.

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Exposing the Core Premise of JW False Teaching

by TerryWalstrom in

poison is at work in any argument with jehovah's witnesses.

this poison has little to do with the beauty of watchtower logic or the tasty morsels of jw reasoning.. the poison is odorless and tasteless and it has absorbed into their core premise: scripture interpretation directed by jehovah.. if you buy into the core premise (somebody possesses a divinely granted access to an infallible source of truth) you are already dead in the water.. that is the deal breaker.

false premises lead always to false conclusions.. stop right here.. the core misrepresentation of christianity solely rests in accepting the bible as the inerrant word of almighty god.

waton

The bible as we have it today is flawed, not because we do not have the originals, because one way or the other the details we read are not jiving with reality. Would the originals read so differently that these errors are corrected?

4. Why waste time arguing scriptural interpretation when no scripture of any kind is demonstrably DIVINE?

because if it can be shown, proven, that the interpreting authority has erred, contradicted scripture [flawed or not], their claim to divine mission is shattered.

It is like proving the alibi of an accused to be flawed, a fraud, a lie, although it turns out, there never was a crime committed; and the whole affair was staged to get publicity, money, fame. double lies proven. Prove black and white reality.

Time, if you have it, well spent.