Posts by moreconfusedthanever

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Good Works by "worldly people".

by Lost in the fog in

i have friends who are called "worldly people" by jws.

these people are actively involved in feeding the homeless over christmas.

managing thrift shops so they can send financial aid overseas to poorer children.

moreconfusedthanever

It always bothered me that we were supposed to view our witnessing as charitable work.

Just recently the watchtower encouraged JWs not to give monetary or material aid to refugees but that we help them spiritually. BUT Jehovah needs your money. Please give generously.

Being charitable and actually helping and caring for the less fortunate is something foreign to them.

When we found ourselves struggling, our worldly friends checked in on us and brought us supplies and genuinely cared. NOT the "brothers and sisters" who supposedly love us unconditionally.

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Do you or did you experience too much intrusion into your personal life by the elders in your congregation?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i ask this question because i have personally experienced first hand the control and intrusion into my personal life by the elders at our hall; and for virtually trivial things or non issues!

what's more, i regularly hear of individuals moving to other halls because they were stumbled by the thought police....er, i mean these elders.. have you had any such experience?

have your elders been a bit ott over trivialities?.

moreconfusedthanever

They only get as much power as the individual gives them.

Growing up in the cult my mother was friends with elders and COs and DOs and their wives.

Our family business was discussed with these ones and their opinions sought on many issues that were really none of their business. For this reason we as youths were constantly spoken to by the elders.

To mum's shock sometimes the elders would not agree with her point of view in dealing with us but when it came to supporting us in a time of distress one of these trusted "friends" had our family marked in order to show us and the congregation that we were "faulty".

They had this power over us because they were too involved in our business. JWs are too quick to trust ones just because they come to the kingdom Hall and that is why it is a Haven for paedophiles.

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How and Why the ARC into Child Sexual Abuse In Institutions Came About.

by smiddy3 in

a program is to be aired on abc tv tonight called : "undeniable :the advocates and agitators who fought for justice" to be shown at 9:30 pm aust.eastern daylight saving time in victoria.. while it doesn`t show anything from what i can gather, about jw`s ,it mainly concentrates on the catholic and anglican churches and if you want to make a comparison the abuse in the jw`s pales by comparison as an institution .. having said that their were some/one champions of jw child sex abused that made sure by their arguments that the jehovah witness religion should not be excluded from this royal commission as they wern`t initially included in this enquiry.. the full/final report of this arc is to be handed down later this week..

moreconfusedthanever

Thanks for sharing. I look forward to watching it.

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Whole families leaving the Org has increased

by pomo6780 in

i have noticed in the uk a few families i used to know while in the borg have exited together.

some include former elders and ministerial servants.

i observed on social media pages that the kids have 'worldly' boyfriends and girlfriends and they look so much happier than they did in the org.

moreconfusedthanever

I know of 4 families including mine.

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Creeeeepy Sanderson

by oppostate in

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creepy sanderson.

moreconfusedthanever

Actually I also do not find it creepy. I find it lovely that a man of "his standing" is actually giving the little boy the time of day.

Growing up we had all the COs/DOs and their wives come for free services from my mother in our home and yet if I said hi to them at the assemblies and conventions they would ignore me and walk away. Too important to waste time on children.

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WT property confiscated in Russia...

by mikeflood in

russian court seizes $15mn worth of assets from banned jehovah’s witnesses ‘extremists’.

published time: 9 dec, 2017 02:44.

moreconfusedthanever

Good thing they are not singling out the JWs so they can't say it's persecution as predicted.

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What's destroying Watchtower!

by UnshackleTheChains in

for me, beyond any shadow of a doubt, it's the extreme shunning policy.. at a recent sunday meeting, i listened to a complete brainwashed sister saying how important it was that we stick to the shunning policy even if it is a close relative.. i just thought.

wtf.

there is a big difference between the brainwashed and the awoken class!.

moreconfusedthanever

It is easy to make comments like that sister until she finds herself at the shunned end of the situation. They think you need to be evil to get disfellowshiped when in reality you can get disfellowshiped quite easily for nothing serious at all.

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"Worldly" boyfriend has never met my JW family, and might never will.

by BL_Poet in

public service announcement: i am not going to write a whole backstory on myself, i just simply want to get to the point.. i have been disfellowshipped now for almost 3 years, for i had a baby out of wedlock, not by my current boyfriend, but by a guy i was dating at the time- don't judge me ;) lol- my current boyfriend and i have been dating for a year now.

i've met his family-only his parents, and his cousins family, of whom i knew before i met him, thus how i met him through a bbq- at the time, he knew i was a single mom, and didn't know too much of my backstory.

as you can imagine, i had to tell him about how my babies father and i didn't work out, due to his wandering eye, and how i had little to no support due to being disfellowshipped, or as the "world" knows it by- disassociated- from my religion.

moreconfusedthanever

Not an easy situation. Part of me would be telling me to take my boyfriend to my parents house and knock on the door. Let your partner see first hand what would happen.

I would most certainly be upfront and open with his family about your upbringing and show them from the watchtower articles why and how you find yourself in this situation.

The internet is a wonderful source of information and there are plenty of stories matching yours that they could see for themselves that you are a victim.

Good luck.

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Attendents sit at the best seats

by Quarterback in

well it's been awhile since i got angry and wanted to post on here again.

last week's watchtower about the subject of love had something to say about the hard working attendants.

it seems that they are choosing to sit in the best seats at the convention.

moreconfusedthanever

Wow! The level of control is crazy.

In our congregation we have a family with a son in a wheelchair. Only one of his family members were allowed to sit in the infirm area with him. So mum sat with him and his dad sat with the rest of the family elsewhere.

A friend of mine was constantly asked to move because she didn't look infirm so she took to walking around with a walking stick. She has a government issued disabled parking pass but was not allowed to park in the disabled parks without a Watchtower issued pass.

Just the entire process of attending convention creates such anxiety it's just not worth the effort.

They don't tell everyone you can stay home in your armchair and watch the entire thing on you tube.

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Counting time calling on inactive ones?

by stillin in

had a couple of witnesses stop by yesterday to say the usual "we miss you, missed you at the meeting, just checking in on you, etc.

" i've always liked this guy so we spoke for a few minutes.

my wife said that they could count their time since i am inactive.

moreconfusedthanever

Pioneers are allowed to count time visiting the inactive. In the 80s they could do so only if they got permission from the elders.

I got a visit from two sisters in our congregation. First time they had ever been at my house and we have been in the same house 18 years. They didn't stay long. I think they just needed the extra half hour for their time sheet.