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  2017 Convention Recording: JWs Applaud 10yo Girl For Shunning Her Own Sister

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. beliefs

  this poor girl was baptized at 9yo.

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  she isnt old enough to buy alcohol, to vote, to decide her own medical treatment, to buy a pet, to travel alone... yet she was deemed old enough to dedicate her life to a religion that will cut her off from her family if she ever leaves.. here she is applauded for shunning her own sister who tried to keep in contact with her after waking up.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzgnfda8ki.

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  Steel

  This is just child abuse.

  Social service should just place these children in foster care.
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  Why did Jesus not use God’s name Jehovah?

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no one doubts jesus extensively spoke about god’s kingdom because he said: “i must proclaim the good news of the kingdom of god to the other towns also, because that is why i was sent.” (luke 4:43) yet christian sects are divided over the subject whether jesus used god’s name or not.. it is said that god’s name jehovah was revealed to moses.

  however jesus knew moses was not trustworthy.

  (mathew 19:8) moses born and brought up in egypt could have been influenced by egyptian knowledge.

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  New testament writers are looking at the oddities in the old testament when it comes to the appearances of God in the scrolls.

  God often refers to himself in the plural , or God is invisible but there is some kind of Devine manifestation that people deal with. Usually the angel of the Lord or word of the Lord.

  The general idea is Jesus is this second manifestation of God that people see and deal with but who really is just God also.

  Thus the reason Jesus never calls his father LORD, jehovah or yahwah.
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  Dunkirk.

  by zeb in

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  2. current

  i have just seen the film "dunkirk".

  do yourselves a big favour and go see it.

  (not for kids).

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  Steel

  Hitler didn't consider the British as sub humans that needed to be either wiped out or enslaved.

  The 400000 British only got out of Dunkirk alive because the nazis let email.
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  Dunkirk.

  by zeb in

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  i have just seen the film "dunkirk".

  do yourselves a big favour and go see it.

  (not for kids).

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  Steel

  Fighting the United Kingdom meant you were fighting Canada, Australia, new Zealand, south Africa and potentially millions of colonial troops. Also the Americans wouldn't be far behind.

  Hitler extended some mercy to English soldiers at Dunkirk in an effort to have a negotiated peace with the British Empire.

  Hitler has no Quarl with the British. He was really about finishing off the slavs, jews and communists.
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  "You're going to die in Armageddon"

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm sure i am not the only one to have heard this come out of the mouths of my loved ones.

  it's a very painful thing to hear, especially when it comes from the people like your own parents/family.

  even after i've been told that, they would say "we'll just continue life without you.

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  Tell them you are going to be raptured out of here before anything really bad happens.

  Send them down a theological rabbit hole. It always fucks them up.
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  Jesus Christ was anti-family

  by deegee in

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  2. beliefs

  strong family ties & family values did not matter to jesus:.

  - a person must hate his or her family and themselves in order to be jesus’ disciple (matthew 10:37; luke 14:26).

  - jesus will give a big reward to those who forsake their family, abandon their home, leave their family behind for him.

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  I always understood those verses in terms of leaving groups like the jehovah witnesses or Islam, when leaving a certain group to become a christian could actually cost you your family.

  Not my child smoked a cigarette, omg I can't talk to him any more.
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  Lack of open-mindedness

  by ilikecheese in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a lot of religious folks can have an open-minded discussion about their beliefs without getting defensive.

  some can actually consider things from another point of view and point out the validity in the other person's point.

  obviously, a lot of jws may just be scared to think/speak in a semi-detrimental way about their religion.

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  When my wife was pregnant an elder wanted to have a meeting with my wife which I showed up and ended.

  The elder asked me what I thought of his authority.

  I told him in have two uncles that have eight year degrees in divinical studies from major universities. You aren't even allowed to research the history of your organization much less have any type of secular religious education.

  I think you are a janitor that hands out magazines. Have I answered your Question?
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  Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.

  i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.

  this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.

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  I don't think the average jw likes to admit they essentially teach salvation though works and obedience and there dogma is one is outside of having a relationship with God.
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  After being in the so-called "Truth" makes me despise all religions.

  by Fader812 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after being a jw made me lose trust in religion, from the lies, hypocrisy and greed of this organization made me lose faith completely.

  what does one do after this mind f$%@, what is there to look forward to?

  do i make up my own agnostic theory in head and hope for the best?

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  Call me crazy but I think the whole of the watchtower is to make you an atheist to begin with.

  I take expection that all other mainstream Christian denominations are as nearly as stupid and evil as the WTS.
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  Gerrit Losch Claims JW's Attending College Are Spiritually Weak

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.

  the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.

  i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.

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  Steel

  And I am still trying to figure out where it says in the bible you need to try and work your way into heaven or paradise earth.