strong family ties & family values did not matter to jesus:.
- a person must hate his or her family and themselves in order to be jesus’ disciple (matthew 10:37; luke 14:26).
- jesus will give a big reward to those who forsake their family, abandon their home, leave their family behind for him.
I always understood those verses in terms of leaving groups like the jehovah witnesses or Islam, when leaving a certain group to become a christian could actually cost you your family.
Not my child smoked a cigarette, omg I can't talk to him any more.
a lot of religious folks can have an open-minded discussion about their beliefs without getting defensive.
some can actually consider things from another point of view and point out the validity in the other person's point.
obviously, a lot of jws may just be scared to think/speak in a semi-detrimental way about their religion.
When my wife was pregnant an elder wanted to have a meeting with my wife which I showed up and ended.
The elder asked me what I thought of his authority.
I told him in have two uncles that have eight year degrees in divinical studies from major universities. You aren't even allowed to research the history of your organization much less have any type of secular religious education.
I think you are a janitor that hands out magazines. Have I answered your Question?
there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.
i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.
this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.
I don't think the average jw likes to admit they essentially teach salvation though works and obedience and there dogma is one is outside of having a relationship with God.
after being a jw made me lose trust in religion, from the lies, hypocrisy and greed of this organization made me lose faith completely.
what does one do after this mind f$%@, what is there to look forward to?
do i make up my own agnostic theory in head and hope for the best?
Call me crazy but I think the whole of the watchtower is to make you an atheist to begin with.
I take expection that all other mainstream Christian denominations are as nearly as stupid and evil as the WTS.
https://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.
the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.
i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.
And I am still trying to figure out where it says in the bible you need to try and work your way into heaven or paradise earth.
https://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.
the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.
i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.
My wife just started an education fund for our 2 year son, yet we have to drive eight hours to an assembly.
Stupid.
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Is any of this stuff peer reviewed by actual scientists? It kind of seems like an incredible waste of time to both read and write if it isn't.
just thought i'd start a thread about favourite movies.
mine, in no particular order, are .... alien - a great visual film.
the chest-bursting scene is still great to watch, no matter how many times i've seen the movie.
I spent an extended vacation in Japan once complete with pining over a girl I felt i should have been with but we were in the friends zone.
Lost in translation
Forest Gump ( pining over same girl)
Platoon
Full Metal jacket
Rocky (1976)
Control (story of joy division)
Donnie darko
Red dawn (1984)
Point break (1991)
it's canada day today and not just any canada day, it's canada's 150 birthday.
for some strange reason i was actually able to reason with my wife day and she agreed with me.
field service on a special day wouldn't be appropriate.
It's Canada day today and not just any Canada day, it's Canada's 150 birthday.
For some strange reason I was actually able to reason with my wife day and she agreed with me. Field service on a special day wouldn't be appropriate.
Yet I saw the ubers out in full force this morning.
Are they really that fucking dumb that they can't figure out why maybe today isn't a good field service day?
i was baptized 4 years ago, i have 2 little girls who love their bunnies, so this year we reached out to 4h and started our own 4h group - this was after asking the elders for counsel.
none provided.
now after doing this for 3 months i am being brought before a judicial committee for neutrality.
I hope you realize that the WTS uses planned parenthood rulings when dealing with pregnant mothers and the issue of giving a women a blood transfusion to save the life of her unborn child. Guess what, it's a fetus with no rights as a person according to the WTS.
I have often thought it was kind of rich for the WTS to worry about things 4H or girls scouts while pulling shit like that.
