Posts by konceptual99

that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

konceptual99

No way did 300 currently DFed people turn up at a single RC. No way have 300 people been reinstated in one district in one year. Both ways of looking at it give you unprecedented numbers.

If there were 300 currently DFed people attending across all the RCs in the UK this summer I'd raise an eyebrow.

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Isn't there a better way

by FedUpJW in

just got done clicking streets signs, store fronts, vehicles, mountains, and roads capcha squares.

and yes, i clicked what was requested.

each time i login i get one or two more capcha challenges added to the number.. isn't there a better way to login?.

konceptual99

It's bad enough some of the WT apologists getting in here let alone spammers. Captcha is fine until our man gives up some more of his time to push things forward again.

Thanks for your work Simon.

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Article: WBBR-AM: A “Pioneering” Radio Experiment by the Watch Tower - A revealing history of WBBR- Includes the last broadcast - April 1957

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wbbr-am-a-pioneering-radio-experiment/#more-9319.

wbbr-am: a “pioneering” radio experiment by the watch tower .

introduction to main article.

konceptual99

Very interesting. Thanks for the informative post Barbara et al.

I've always found the "personal contact" argument to be flawed given that not all can be reached physically. Of course the indoctrinated dub has a response which is the ago old "God will judge, he can makes the stones speak" type argument. Nowadays the web site is trotted out as the answer to the poor reach of the personal ministry. It begs the question why Jehovah does not simply do this anyway? Spending all this time failing to meet people when he could make the message clear to all is a crazy way of accomplishing the job of getting a life saving message out.

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Brother & Sisters, Aunts and Uncles.....husband and wife

by menrov in

was just thinking about the practice in wt (and i believe some other religions as well) to call your fellow female (baptized) jw a sister, a brother if it is a man.

children call older people aunt or uncle.

so, at home, i can call my wife by her first name etc.

konceptual99

Yes Pale. It would be rare to hear two people in normal conversation, even in the hall, refer to each other as brother/sister. First names would be the rule.

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Brother & Sisters, Aunts and Uncles.....husband and wife

by menrov in

was just thinking about the practice in wt (and i believe some other religions as well) to call your fellow female (baptized) jw a sister, a brother if it is a man.

children call older people aunt or uncle.

so, at home, i can call my wife by her first name etc.

konceptual99

Err.... not sure I agree it's strange in the U.K. Pale... As a child we always called adult witnesses aunt and uncle. Men are brothers and women are sisters. A married brother would called his wife sister in circumstances like calling on her for an answer.

In conversation in the hall for example we would not use formal terms. Is that what you mean?

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DId you ever fall asleep at the meetings, Assemblys??

by karter in

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if i'm tierd i fall asleep anywere so the meetings ect were no diffrent my wife would always try to wake me but im a deep sleeper.

karter .

konceptual99

Used to go to sleep often before I woke up. Now I am awake I sleep even more if I ever go.

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Post Convention Euphoria

by Phoebe in

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there is a plethora of convention photos on my instagram this morning.

(a lot of my jw friends have forgotten i'm on their followers list) .

smiling faces standing next to convention posters with comments like 'nope, i'm not giving up.

konceptual99

Ha Jook!

The Barney Arms.... I used to go up to Twickenham on the Sunday just to go to the Barney Arms as did hundreds of other young people. That place was rammed.

In those days hearing about some party going on after the convention was only possible by intense networking - getting out, talking to randoms, getting invites and being prepared to travel. When I was at college my mates were amazed at how I'd have gone to Bournemouth, Southampton London, Essex, Hampshire - all over the south east to go to a party. Still happens now but it's plastered all over social media...

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"Even if this wasn't the truth, I would still stay. This is the best life to live..."

by HereIgo in

i was recently told this by a jw family member when trying to get through to them.

does this quote indicate that maybe such ones have considered that the jw's may not have the truth after all?

or is that just my wishful thinking?

konceptual99

It's not real worship to me. I just enjoy the social aspect, the interaction with my friends and family that are my everything.

This I can understand. The only thing is that many of your friends will be like my friends and conditional. I had a bizarre conversation with my wife the other day where I was updating her on my feelings and she said that if I fully stopped going to meetings it would affect our social life yet refused to accept that friends that were only friends if I went to the meetings were conditional ones.

The blood stance, I totally get it; "abstain from blood", Old and New Testament. So, JWs interpret it literally. So it is. How many lives are lost daily due to sacrifice to the 'Gods' of war? How many lives are lost daily to crime, to the practice of harmful habits such as drugs, smoking, excessive drinking? So, JWs decide to sacrifice their life following their interpretation of the text. So be it, and I get it.

This I can't understand since two wrongs don't make a right. Also, many of the examples you quote affect the adult individual however the Witness stance on blood can affect minors. It is also based on a completely illogical and hypocritical foundation where it's wrong to donate blood but acceptable to take fractions obtained from that donated by others. I hate the blood policy.

The abuse follow-up policies need improving. That is definitely coming due to all the recent exposure. By the way, this is a problem everywhere in society at large; one would have to isolate oneself to avoid it.

Granted it's an issue in society in general however the WTS lags behind so many other organisations, is obstructive when investigated and continues to obsfucate and distract instead of engage.

The shunning practice needs to be tweaked for sure. However, in many instances, this type of treatment is absolutely necessary. I take it as a case by case scenario.

What would you say would constitute an absolute necessity to shun?

Due to my indoctrination from birth,I can excuse it all. This is just a Faith with a different interpretation.

Really? "I was just following orders. I was brought up in the Hitler Youth and indoctrinated. I am sure that excuses my actions".

Faith is a form of trust. It should be based on experience and confidence. How can you have faith when so much of the so called evidence is unreliable?

I really can understand why you might choose to stay in for the sake of family but I don't understand your reasoning on the rest of it. Of course it's your life fella...